Twin Disc Clutch Chatter
#1
Racer
Thread Starter
Twin Disc Clutch Chatter
I am posting here because I know you guys have up graded clutches.
I finished the installation of my new twin disc clutch. I finished a little late that night, so I just took it for a quick spin of about 5 miles. The clutch was smooth and engaged great, no slipping. The next day when I went for a drive the clutch had considerable chatter. When I called the manufacture I was told that this is normal during the break-in period and it should go away once I put some mile on it. It just seams weird that it had no chatter for 5 miles then developed chatter. I went with the twin disc because it was supposed to smooth and not chatter. Please tell me the manufacture is correct and this will correct itself.
Thanks
I finished the installation of my new twin disc clutch. I finished a little late that night, so I just took it for a quick spin of about 5 miles. The clutch was smooth and engaged great, no slipping. The next day when I went for a drive the clutch had considerable chatter. When I called the manufacture I was told that this is normal during the break-in period and it should go away once I put some mile on it. It just seams weird that it had no chatter for 5 miles then developed chatter. I went with the twin disc because it was supposed to smooth and not chatter. Please tell me the manufacture is correct and this will correct itself.
Thanks
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i jusd put in a McLeod rst and I have the same issue its only a little chatter getting out of first. it comes and goes too when its cold no chatter when its hot I get chatter. you need to find a good traffic jam to break it in
#9
ISIS SUCKS FAT CHOAD
I had a feeling you were going to say that.
I know there's mixed reviews on those clutches.
Me personally, I'd pull the clutch, sell it for as much as you can get out of it, and buy a McLeod RST or RXT or a mantic clutch. You won't have issues then.
A 2 second google search yields lots of similar issues people have with these clutches.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208712
I know there's mixed reviews on those clutches.
Me personally, I'd pull the clutch, sell it for as much as you can get out of it, and buy a McLeod RST or RXT or a mantic clutch. You won't have issues then.
A 2 second google search yields lots of similar issues people have with these clutches.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208712
Last edited by MVP'S ZO6; 09-14-2013 at 12:02 PM.
#10
Burning Brakes
Op, I would get aggressive with it and see if you can get it to smooth out after some more heat cylces. Otherwise, I would pull it and sell it as well. A clutch is one of those parts that can make you hate even the most badass car.
To add another option to your list, i've been extremely happy with the DYAD I put in mine. Need a little more throttle to get rolling because of how light it is, but is smooth.
To add another option to your list, i've been extremely happy with the DYAD I put in mine. Need a little more throttle to get rolling because of how light it is, but is smooth.
#11
Racer
Thread Starter
Wow, this is not the news I wanted to hear. I have a pretty good chunk of change in this clutch. In addition, who wants to buy a used clutch, even if it only has 70 miles on it.
The 2nd part of the story is it also has a small vibration. I am blaming myself for that, since I did not follow the advise given to me by our forum brothers to have it balanced to match the stock assembly. I am in the process of removing it today to have it balanced next week. Now I am not sure which way to go. You are right, in its current state driving the car is NOT enjoyable. It is making me rethink the whole mod road I have started down.
Unless I get some more negative feedback I guess I will get it balanced and try to work through the chatter during the break in phase. Hopefully I will be one of the lucky ones, and the "Monster" will settle down.
Thanks to everyone for the feedback. I will post either way so others can learn from this, whatever happens.
The 2nd part of the story is it also has a small vibration. I am blaming myself for that, since I did not follow the advise given to me by our forum brothers to have it balanced to match the stock assembly. I am in the process of removing it today to have it balanced next week. Now I am not sure which way to go. You are right, in its current state driving the car is NOT enjoyable. It is making me rethink the whole mod road I have started down.
Unless I get some more negative feedback I guess I will get it balanced and try to work through the chatter during the break in phase. Hopefully I will be one of the lucky ones, and the "Monster" will settle down.
Thanks to everyone for the feedback. I will post either way so others can learn from this, whatever happens.
#12
ISIS SUCKS FAT CHOAD
One thing to remember though is those puck style disk with their ceramic metallic pads are always more aggressive and make more noise but if it don't feel right it probably isn't. You know your car.
#13
Burning Brakes
My discs are ceramic, but I think the stage 1 is organic. Not enough of these in the market yet to have a lot of reviews, so far mine seems good.
#15
Racer
Thread Starter
Exactly,
"Carbon Organic Friction Material for long life and good holding capacity"
It was sold/marketed to me a smooth engagement clutch. I have talked with Monster and they assure me it will smooth out once I put some miles on it. I was hoping someone had some experience with this clutch.
"Carbon Organic Friction Material for long life and good holding capacity"
It was sold/marketed to me a smooth engagement clutch. I have talked with Monster and they assure me it will smooth out once I put some miles on it. I was hoping someone had some experience with this clutch.
#16
ISIS SUCKS FAT CHOAD
Well, it is not a puck clutch, it is a stge 1 twin disc, I have a stage 2 twin, I have 6500 miles on mine, and it tends to chatter a little, mostly when it gets warm [hot]. I can not say how it compares to others, as this is my first twin. If I where the OP, I would contact monster and see what they have to say.
My discs are ceramic, but I think the stage 1 is organic. Not enough of these in the market yet to have a lot of reviews, so far mine seems good.
My discs are ceramic, but I think the stage 1 is organic. Not enough of these in the market yet to have a lot of reviews, so far mine seems good.
If its chattering there's issues.
The more I look on the net the more I see a bunch of unhappy people with this clutch. I mean some are happy but not too many.
#17
ISIS SUCKS FAT CHOAD
Exactly,
"Carbon Organic Friction Material for long life and good holding capacity"
It was sold/marketed to me a smooth engagement clutch. I have talked with Monster and they assure me it will smooth out once I put some miles on it. I was hoping someone had some experience with this clutch.
"Carbon Organic Friction Material for long life and good holding capacity"
It was sold/marketed to me a smooth engagement clutch. I have talked with Monster and they assure me it will smooth out once I put some miles on it. I was hoping someone had some experience with this clutch.
#18
I had a monster in my GTO and it chattered worse than my wife but held the power. My McLeod in the Z has no chatter and feels like the stocker. I reused my flywheel and hold your breath, I didn't get it balanced with the new clutch and works fine.
#19
Racer
Thread Starter
I realize people will tell you what you want to hear. That is why I put it out there to you guys, knew I would get the real info I needed. It's still 50/50 on the opinions overall, some like it, and some don't. It seams the best option would be to move into another clutch and use my stock flywheel.
One thing is for sure, I am getting pretty darn good at pulling a C5 clutch!!
Again, I appreciate the the input guys.
One thing is for sure, I am getting pretty darn good at pulling a C5 clutch!!
Again, I appreciate the the input guys.
#20
Melting Slicks
I realize people will tell you what you want to hear. That is why I put it out there to you guys, knew I would get the real info I needed. It's still 50/50 on the opinions overall, some like it, and some don't. It seams the best option would be to move into another clutch and use my stock flywheel.
One thing is for sure, I am getting pretty darn good at pulling a C5 clutch!!
Again, I appreciate the the input guys.
One thing is for sure, I am getting pretty darn good at pulling a C5 clutch!!
Again, I appreciate the the input guys.
An organic clutch should not judder though. Of course that statement does require the installation was correct, all parts used were of good quality and that all friction surfaces were 100% smooth and flat on installation.
If any of the above did not apply, then yes there could be issues.
But if the clutch is in the car, it would make more sense to give it some time. Maybe it will come good. Maybe there is some other slight issue that a bedding in process might resolve.