The True FI crankcase evac solution!
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What is the recommended configuration for an ls1 turbo? The valley cover does not have a nipple for a line to go to and there are three fittings on the valve covers, 2 on passenger side and one on driver side. Also, I saw mentioned before that someone's kit did not come with the bolt to bolt the catch can to the head, mine didn't either. May want to have your packaging people pay more attention when packaging. I know the bolt is cheap, but it is a PITA to have to run to the parts store and get the bolt when you are in the middle of the install, especially with the price of this kit...
I have looked at the revxtreme instruction, but that catch can it shows has 2 nipples...
I have looked at the revxtreme instruction, but that catch can it shows has 2 nipples...
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To give credit to the GM engineers, they developed a good solution years ago but the "bean counters" nixed it as most car buyers will not accept another maintanance procedure and GM would not approve the added cost. The fact is most new car owners dont have a clue about the issue and just drive their cars.
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What is the recommended configuration for an ls1 turbo? The valley cover does not have a nipple for a line to go to and there are three fittings on the valve covers, 2 on passenger side and one on driver side. Also, I saw mentioned before that someone's kit did not come with the bolt to bolt the catch can to the head, mine didn't either. May want to have your packaging people pay more attention when packaging. I know the bolt is cheap, but it is a PITA to have to run to the parts store and get the bolt when you are in the middle of the install, especially with the price of this kit...
I have looked at the revxtreme instruction, but that catch can it shows has 2 nipples...
I have looked at the revxtreme instruction, but that catch can it shows has 2 nipples...
The bolt should be included by RX, but we will make sure.
Both GM & Ford designed very effective oil separating cans in the past....some even used a centrifuge type spin to separate and filter the contaminates out of the collected oil and returned it to the crankcase. All were nixed for one reason or another. If you look into the GM LLT V6 intake manifold they have molded in a 1 pint capture bowel just inside the snout that can be cleaned during service.
I have a early 60's maserati mistral and it has the motor used to race LeMans in the late 40's/50's and it has a factory oil separator that kept it out of the intake manifold for the power, but they reintrodced it to the crankcase not knowing back then all the harmful compounds that were produced.
On todays industrial diesels this is the most effective system developed to date:
http://www.alfalaval.com/about-us/pr...separator.aspx
Pricey but it is amazing.
Although these are used on huge idustrial diesels, the propblem & solution remains the same.
Here is an excerpt:
Catalytic fines, a hazardous by-product of the refining process, are a particular concern in dealing with these oils, as failure to remove them can lead to increased wear and permanent engine damage.
Lubricating and marine diesel oils, shown to the right on the scale (LO/TP = lube oil trunk piston engine, LO/XH = lube oil cross head engine, GO/MDO = gas oil/marine diesel oil), are of lower and more consistent density. While still complex and potentially impure, they have a known composition and can be handled by a less adaptive separator. The impurities involved are usually limited to soot and particles, and if water is present, it is generally only freshwater condensate.
Alfa Laval’s S- and P- separators approach this scale from opposite ends, as can be seen from the illustration above. By addressing oil treatment in this manner, Alfa Laval lets shipyards, engine builders and ship owners choose the level of performance and automation that matches their oil and application needs.
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Originally Posted by The Bat Car;157914884
Both GM & Ford designed very effective oil separating cans in the past....some even used a centrifuge type spin to separate and filter the contaminates out of the collected oil and returned it to the crankcase...
....On todays industrial diesels this is the most effective system developed to date:
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Both GM & Ford designed very effective oil separating cans in the past....some even used a centrifuge type spin to separate and filter the contaminates out of the collected oil and returned it to the crankcase...
....On todays industrial diesels this is the most effective system developed to date:
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#27
The Alfa Laval devices do all that.....and filter and clean the oil so it can be returned to the crankcase. They cost thousands to 10's of thousands though.
Ask any quesions on the affordable solutions and I can help.
Ask any quesions on the affordable solutions and I can help.
#30
Burning Brakes
yes
This is the RX can on my 2005 C6.
Below is a link you can click for my install of the RX can
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...hg-vacuum.html
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Below is a link you can click for my install of the RX can
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...hg-vacuum.html
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#31
How is it working out Ray? There are so many that have only 1/2 of the system addressed and none of the well know brand systems has even tried the systems we sent them free, they all deal with it by either eliminating the evacuation portion, or by sucking it into the head unit. Don't understand with such great designed kits they ignore this portion.
#33
The bracket is included but the bolt is not. Any hardware store will carry it though.
Any color you want or polished is available, make sure to specify the A&A bracket when ordering and the dual valve can.
Any color you want or polished is available, make sure to specify the A&A bracket when ordering and the dual valve can.
#34
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How is it working out Ray? There are so many that have only 1/2 of the system addressed and none of the well know brand systems has even tried the systems we sent them free, they all deal with it by either eliminating the evacuation portion, or by sucking it into the head unit. Don't understand with such great designed kits they ignore this portion.
System is trouble free. I've not put many miles on it yet. I'll check for oil recovery when I get more miles on it. One thing I have noticed is that before the catch can when I just littley applied throttle to move the car slowely froward from a stop the idle would drop real low sometimes. After installing the catch can I've not noticed that happening.
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MY INSTALL WRITE UP
I purchased the RX catch can and the filter for my 2005 C6 that has an A&A V3 supercharger and here's what I did (Thanks Tracey for doing a great job getting me the stuff). First thing I did before I started the install of the catch can was disconnect the hose that runs to the air filter and test to see how much vacuum was getting pulled with the A&A setup. When I tested for vacuum on the hose the gauge never moved at all, even under boost driving no vacuum. Then I did this next mod. First I modified a 1/2 plastic hose barb that I got from ACE Hardware.
Heres what it looked like before I drilled a hole in the air intake and installed it. A lot of sanding to smooth it up and I shortened the end that goes inside a little.
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Drilled a hole and installed 90* plastic barb from inside out.
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More on RX can. Next I tested the hose going to the barb with new setup and I now had 4 in Hg of vacuum with just a good couple of runs down the road at about 4 psi boost. I'm pretty sure it would pull more with some harder pulls under more boost. But I now had it pulling air and that was good enough for me to finish the install.
The bracket that came with the RX can to mount the can to the A&A supercharger bracket came raw so I needed to step it up so I sanded and polished it up. Barb in picture below was not finished to install at the time of this picture.
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Next I ran a hose from the rear of the drivers side valve tran cover along the the firewall an under the passenger fuel rail cover and under supercharger bracket so that hose not visable until it came out under the catch can. This had a nice hidden cleaner look to me.
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Three hoses go out from the RX catch can. A hose goes to the rear drivers side valve cover, to the intake manifold and then a hose goes to the air intake before the Vortech supercharger. I used Spectre 3/8 hose end clamps to make it look cool. A filter goes on the oil fill that has a valve in it as well.
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I used 3/8 fuel hose for the RX catch can install. Hardest part was trying to get the 3/8 hose on the 1/2 plastic 90* even after I sanded it down and used it for this Mod. My wife was not at home so I heated the hose with the flames from are gas stove and it softened it up enough that I was able to get it to slide on the 1/2 plastic barb. Also a little vegetable oil for the lube.
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I used 3/8 fuel hose for the RX catch can install. Hardest part was trying to get the 3/8 hose on the 1/2 plastic 90* even after I sanded it down and used it for this Mod. My wife was not at home so I heated the hose with the flames from are gas stove and it softened it up enough that I was able to get it to slide on the 1/2 plastic barb. Also a little vegetable oil for the lube.
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Three hoses go out from the RX catch can. A hose goes to the rear drivers side valve cover, to the intake manifold and then a hose goes to the air intake before the Vortech supercharger. I used Spectre 3/8 hose end clamps to make it look cool. A filter goes on the oil fill that has a valve in it as well.
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I used 3/8 fuel hose for the RX catch can install. Hardest part was trying to get the 3/8 hose on the 1/2 plastic 90* even after I sanded it down and used it for this Mod. My wife was not at home so I heated the hose with the flames from are gas stove and it softened it up enough that I was able to get it to slide on the 1/2 plastic barb. Also a little vegetable oil for the lube.
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I used 3/8 fuel hose for the RX catch can install. Hardest part was trying to get the 3/8 hose on the 1/2 plastic 90* even after I sanded it down and used it for this Mod. My wife was not at home so I heated the hose with the flames from are gas stove and it softened it up enough that I was able to get it to slide on the 1/2 plastic barb. Also a little vegetable oil for the lube.
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#39
If it is NA you would want the single valve system. Every modern car & light truck has oil ingestion issues in the intake air charge and can benefit from trapping the oil from entering.
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miss up.
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