***How many of you are pushing 650HP+ on stock Bottom End?***
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668 hp 630 tq on mine at 11psi, all stock except mellings oils pump. 5 years running at this level. Saw over 700hp during dyno tune but decided to stay at 11 psi.
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Yeah that power is addicting and tempting to keep adding more. If mine hadn't blown at 700ish, I wanted to try 800. No doubt it takes a toll on the parts. Would you rather have: more fun short term, or maybe hold off and extend the life? Getting mine back together has cost a pile of money and lots of downtime. But then you get the chance to go from this:
To this:
To this:
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Hell Ive been pushing it for years. Doug never dyno'ed it, just tuned it at the track after I log my runs. Do the math, 9.73@144. Weight is ~3600. 14 LBS on stock block. Start saving. Its only a matter of time for all of us!
I figure when mine goes, I cant complain. Ive got more passes with this motor than I ever expected... (~1300) I'm already faster than my bar will allow. So I do not need any more. I am not putting a cage in the car, so why waste my money on a crazy motor. Im just going to forge the bottom end... for now.
I figure when mine goes, I cant complain. Ive got more passes with this motor than I ever expected... (~1300) I'm already faster than my bar will allow. So I do not need any more. I am not putting a cage in the car, so why waste my money on a crazy motor. Im just going to forge the bottom end... for now.
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Yep! and it helps when Doug is doing the tuning... I just modify to suit whatever class I am racing.
It isnt who has 650 plus, Its who uses it on a regular basis, not just the occasional run through "mexico"!
It isnt who has 650 plus, Its who uses it on a regular basis, not just the occasional run through "mexico"!
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I am making 605 on 10 lbs and boost juice on a very rich tune afr 10.8ish. As bad as I want to go for heads, more boost, or leaning it out a little cuz I do have room to grow in the tune I think I will wait. I would rather keep it where it is and take my time and build a strong short block. My car sees 6500-6700 rpms on a regular basis
If I were you and had the money to build it my car wouldnt be in the garage it would be getting forged internals
If I were you and had the money to build it my car wouldnt be in the garage it would be getting forged internals
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the op sounds like he is caught up in a numbers game more then anything else, if you are at 610 now and only end up with say 635 don't be pissed that you did not meet your goal, i know peole that have pullied down, added meth and bigger fuel pumps to gain a fraction of what they were shooting for, hope your fuel system is up to the task
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the op sounds like he is caught up in a numbers game more then anything else, if you are at 610 now and only end up with say 635 don't be pissed that you did not meet your goal, i know peole that have pullied down, added meth and bigger fuel pumps to gain a fraction of what they were shooting for, hope your fuel system is up to the task
And yes I would like a 700HP car, because they don't grow on trees, but if my tuner feels the car will be best at 650, than so be it! At least I tried for it! I just wanted to hear from some guys that have more than 650 and any problems they had!
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Thanks and yes a handful of 9's, but mostly low 10's brackets where I'm legal. I use ET street bias plys on a drag pack. I always run full power, and use HPTuners speed limiter to keep under 135mph. So, when are you getting the tuneup?
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Doug (ECS) is coming out to Chicago the 13th and will be tuning a bunch of us meth guys. I know I will be getting a rock star tune, I'll post up some numbers after Saturday
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Yes
Cool! Fixed
Cool! Fixed
#33
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I'm pushing 600 RW, with only 7.5lbs of boost,with a stock block, and no meth. I do have custom heads, blower cam, but I ditched my FAST, and EWP. My tuner, (Tom Wong) went pretty conservative, but we ran out of FP, with #60injectors, and a Walbro pump, so he added a Magnaspark BAP, and problem solved. I have no intentions of adding more power, and besides, I blew up my T-56 last Weds. doing one gear, and shift run. I'm thinking having Rick@ RKT-56 doing the trans, and diff.
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I have the stock pulley that came with the kit and I was at 9lbs, but shaved 1/16 off the restrictor plate to give me 10lbs. I would like to go to 12-13lbs and closer to 700hp as long as I have enough fuel and meth to back it up! we'll just have to see if can happen safely without too much worry!
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My Novi2000 has 3.5 pulley and Im doing the install now, well waiting for the supercharger to come back for getting a rebuild, but I was going to run it without a restrictor plate. I know if you dont drive real aggressive then 650hp all day is no problem. 700hp now thats a horse of a different color. I say do it, if it blows f**k it put a forged motor in...
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THnks, Trip. I'm in no huge hurry. I'm still too weak to R&R the stuff, and after all, I've had the car over 8 yrs. and have yet to reach 20k miles.