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Cryptos

Any videos of this kit running?

0CK@UPPCOS

Oh the good old CARB board! C5- the kit bolts to the factory headers, then ~4" in front of the cats (or you can remove the cats) you weld in a V-Band flange (supplied) and clamp it with the supplied V-Band clamp to the down pipes.

It is possible I suppose to do a oil gravity system, I didn't want to bother with hacking up an expensive oil pan that's hard to remove, I figured a $5 oil cap was a better solution, and pump it back in.

The C6 we did doesn't have cats, the C5 does. How long to remove it is kinda dependat upon you. I'm getting pretty profecient at puting these on and taking them off with all the modifications.


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Corvette-Chris

Can you provide us with the maker of the Turbos? Do they have Chinese or foreign made CHRA's?

0CK@UPPCOS

They are manufactured by Wayline, and yes it is a foreign company. I've seen "chineese" turbos before, and these don't even compare. They've been producing turbos for the aftermarket oem replacement for years, and recently they started branching out into the performance aftermarket side of turbos. They have all the equipment (hot gas ballancers, etc). I wouldn't stand behind something, nor put my name on it if I didn't have COMPLETE FAITH in it! Generally they come standard with a 1yr warranty. But for the Corvette guys, I've increased it to a two year warranty. I've tested and used these turbos for YEARS, making stupid power on 4-8cyls, they work.

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BLOWNBLUEZ06

I'm curious about something. If these turbos are good for 550 each, then what is causing them to nose over on the power so badly and so early? With a curve like that, it tells me if you try to turn the boost up, it's only going to get worse.

wilson34

Samething I was thinking aswell, just get some precision billets with vband, and good 38mm wastegates.

That would be well worth it

0CK@UPPCOS

A few things.... This is the dyno of the 1998 C5 Automatic.

1st the Auto is just EATing power, plane and simple.

2. This is a 1st gen LS1, weak rod bolts, crappy LS1 intake manifold, and crappy LS1 cam. Same setup on a 01+ would net much better results just from the flow and the cam profile.

3. This is a VERY mild tune, as I had to produce ample power, yet keep it reliable so I have a chance to sell it. It's REALLY lacking timing in the top end. It's on 91oct w/o meth injection. I wanted it to be as simple as possible, because when I imagine selling it, I imagine I'll be selling it to an old man who's never heard of E85.

If you look it's a nice smooth transition, now look at the C6 dyno, the owner didn't quite understand oct ratings, so he had 85 in it. We drained what we could but there was still a mix of crap in there, and on the top end you can see knock retard kick in and pull mad power. Both of these cars are suffering from loss of timing (which effects top end most of all) not lack of turbo....

Here's a couple dynos from other cars that we've done using only ONE of these turbos. (PS Check out the consistancy of the dyno!)

venom_lightning

is that price out the door? If not how much is EVERYTHING? thanx

BLOWNBLUEZ06

In all fairness, Civic motors don't move the air that LS engines do. Did you by chance measure the exhaust pressure in the manifold before the turbo? If so, what was it? Do you have any max-effort builds on a Vette where you can show the real potential of this kit? What size turbine housings are on these turbos?
I see that this kit comes with HPtuners, but does it include a tune or simply the module? What kind of tuning support?

Thanks

venom_lightning

+1, good questions bro!

0CK@UPPCOS

Yes, they infact do. 500hp on a LS vs 500hp on a civic, pretty much the same airflow. Granted there are a few other things that effect it like comp ratio, timing, etc, overall air mass = power.

That being said, I'll repost the compressor map. This should squash all questioning about the flow of these turbos.

We don't have a max effor build yet, but Spin has volunteered his car as he's looking to swap to turbos.

The turbine housing is a T3, with a .63A/R.

It does NOT come with a tune. I don't believe in cookie cutter one size fits all tunes. Each and every car should be tuned by a professional dyno tuner. Actually there is some debate, we may be replacing the oil pump with a higher quality pump, and to compensate in cost loosing the HPT. Since we recommend the car being professionally tuned, most tuners already have an interface, and by giving the interface to average Joe who doens't know how to tune, I'm giving him a license to destroy stuff....

Venom, yes this is the price out the door (But Spin and I do accept tips!, or donations to St Judes), but this depends on the power level you're looking for. For a complete list of what all is included:

www.uppcos.com/galleryhtml/ttvette.htm




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peter pan

I have been following threads in both FI sections and what is the install time for this setup as this will give me an idea what I will pay to have a kit installed

0CK@UPPCOS

With expierence should take about 12hrs (day and a half). For someone who's not very expierenced, 2-3 days. We charge $1200 for install and $550 for a tune, just to give you an idea.

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peter pan

Thanks for the input and I am really looking forward to your C6Z kit as I am looking to go that route for my next build and TT will be fun for a Texas Mile car

396375

I really like this kit.I think people are going to be surprized on how well it works.I know Spin would never put any junk on his car.

black98c5

I think there will be a lot of scepticism until we see (my self included) what this kit is made of on a max effort build.

Looking forward to some #'s with a forged motor and 15+psi.

0CK@UPPCOS

0C_Williams@RPM

Looking exceptionally good !

I may have a customer lined for a kit - if it comes to fruition we'll run 12 PSI on a 10.0:1 forged bottom end.

Congrats on the product and price point.

SpinMonster

I believe the 1998 stock cam is a 199/208 115.5LSA with .479" lift. The power band on the stock 98 cam is going to force a drop on any turbo like that. If you put in a turbo friendly cam that is a single pattern or reverse split like a 227/224 116, to address the high rpm it would carry the power out way past 6000. I wouldnt think a 199 on a 115 would do much for the power band on any car. Big splits on turbo cams arent a good thing.

Obviously the same turbos on a C6 at 650rwhp/650 shows they arent out of air at 550.