MVP'S ZO6

ok so I have been thinking about this for quite some time now. I was just going to sell my vette and buy a built C6z but I figured I'd have more fun building my C5 and I want to do it. I want to build a 454 LSx engine and slap a centrifigual supercharger on it. here's what I'm thinking? any comments, suggestions are appreciated. (BE NICE! LOL)

Vehicle: 1997 Targa Top Vette

Engine: RHS Tall Deck block, LS7 heads
Custom pistons to achieve a 10.0:1 static compression ratio
custom spec cam for my application (after I do all the math homework)
Oliver rods
Lunati Crank
Everthing buttoned down with ARP fasteners
Fast 102MM intake manifold
14# of boost for the street.

I want to be able to make 4 diget numbers in show off mode. i.e. more then 14 lbs of boost. However, realisticly I'd like to make 800 WHP for the street and keep the WTQ close as I can to the 800 mark with 14LBS of boost

besides the transmission and rear end those are all the big parts.

any comments suggestions, concerns Ect? It was suggested by another forum member that I post this over here. Heres the original thread.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...for-my-c5.html

corvette8189

use the rhs block

should be a nice build, and achieve those numbers pretty easy

MVP'S ZO6

How about the oiling system? would I benefit using a dry sump setup?

BLOWNBLUEZ06

Dry sump is better, but far from necessary for your goals. If I had an endless bank account, I would build an RHS motor with a set of wicked MAST heads (they bought out Performance Induction (formerly ETP)). Lunati makes a nice "pro" rod too. Oliver is a good choice though, as is Carillo.
You running a stick or auto?
If running a standard, I recommend the RPS triple carbon clutch and upgrading the driveshaft with a custom one from Dallas Performance. They do a 3.5" shaft design with ZR1 couplers that should work nicely. Transmission should be a new 6060 and C6Z diff conversion. That will hold everything as well as you can hope.

Your build thread belongs here!

joe11204

Save your money. For the street you don't need a drysump. But if you insist I would go with ARE's system. That is what I have in my build.

MVP'S ZO6

Right on will do. Just asking. I mean I've played with boosted stuff. Just not at this level. What justifies the need for the Drysump system? competition racing purposes?

I'm running a standard Transmission. I planned on a RPS Tripple. thanks guys. Keep all the comments and suggestions coming.

joe11204

Basically any type of competitive driving that results in high G's could cause the factory wet sump oiling system to cavitate and/or "suck" air if the pickup is ever exposed. Also high horsepower setups could actually suck the pan dry.

None of these issues should be a problem for a street car.

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MVP'S ZO6

Taken from my other thread....

What kind of nuances are we talking about? Also, mast seems to have a plethora of cylinder heads are you talking about these? http://www.mastmotorsports.com/2010/...sembled&id=377

if I do a modified ZR1 TR6060 Transmission from RPM does thier price include the core or do I have to source my own?

Same question for the C6Z differential?

BLOWNBLUEZ06

That would be the heads.
Are you aware of the fitment issues of the 102 intake on the C5's?
If you're going all out, have you considered a Wilson, Marcella or some other intake?


No core on the trans or the Diff at RPM.

MVP'S ZO6

no i wasnt aware of the fitment issue. what fitment issue? what's wrong with it?

That wilson manifold is a beautiful piece though.

Z06wanted

You better plan on badass fuel system 2000.00 around a 100lbh injector the list goes on and on. Are you sure you know what your getting into? A blower for that size of motor is going to have to be big F1R or maybe F2. Bail and buy the modded C6. The list goes on and on.

BLOWNBLUEZ06

There's a thread in the tech section that RMS-MAN started. They rub the cowl in the back. He had to space the entire cradle down with washers to create enough space for it to clear without rubbing. Then you change the steering geometry among other things, so you can head in to get your alignment checked. Ridiculous if you ask me.

clekchaum

what is your budget? do you realize the cost of what you are planning?

need to factor in the engine, fuel, drivetrain, suspension, install/tune, dyno, etc etc , just trying to keep things for you in perspective. it might sound fun but the costs add up fast.

MVP'S ZO6

Realisticay I'm budgeted for about 40-45K. To be honest I will more then likely end up doing as much of the installation of components myself as I can. Also I've built high powered cars before just never a corvette and never to this level. On that note, I realize that for the power I want I could go with cheaper parts i.e smaller displacemrn and lets say an eagle rotating assembly and a LS2 block for the motor and survive. But the fact is it still cost a pretty penny and I don't want something to let go simply because I choose to save a few bucks. Been there done that.

396375

Why build it when you can buy it?I know this seems a little radical but even if you made some changes for the street you would still be way ahead money wise.I don't know about the half filled block for the street though.
There are some killer deals on complete motor right now.
Good luck.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/parts-...-sale-new.html

Hell.Just buy the whole car!

http://www.canadiancorvetteforums.co...-z06-sale.html

Mike04

That is a nice looking intake, love to have that....

WKMCD

The Wilson is a good looking piece. Too bad it doesn't work. John Marcella makes some gorgeous intakes that work. VA Speed is currently working on a longer runner sheet metal street/strip intake.

JJ 86

stevieturbo

I'd sooner go for an engine with thick bores/liners than one bored to its limit leaving thin bore walls and little distance between cylinders for the head gasket to seal on.

IMO 454 is extreme and better suited to normally aspirated

VonDutch

Save your money for Tickets

pass on the dry sump