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Hey guys,
I am looking to max out my car's potential and was talking to a buddy of mine yesterday. He said he wasnt sure about if my car could handle what I have planned and thought it would be best to ask everyone on here. So here it goes......
Currently I have a 99 C5 with a stock bottom end. The car has been modified with a Maggie S/C and a 3.1 pulley and a MagnaCharger cooler, long tube headers, I had the stock heads modified, it is currently running a z06 cam, Corsa exhaust, bigger injectors, and intake. I am sure there are a few minor things I am forgetting......
Currently the car is no where near its running potential since it has a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad tune. I think I am running about 300-350 hp. It also has gummy clutch syndrome.
Anyways, my plan was to put in a cam that would allow for better potential from the S/C (maybe from Lingenfelter or ECS or somewhere), then drop the pulley size to 2.9 or 2.8 (what ever is available - currently I have only found 2.8), then drop a new clutch in it (was told that a ls7 clutch kit could handle the power that I should be putting out as long as I dont always race it and dont put slicks on it - but if you dont think so, please let me know what i should get), then have a tuner tune it.
So with all that said......
1) do you think the stock bottom end can handle that without grenading?
2) do you have any recommendation for my choice of parts?
3) is there anything I need to look out for after this is done (if it can be done)? Or anything else that should be done so the stock bottom end can handle this?
Chris, I appreciate that and know that, but I am at work and thats why i didnt call. I would appreciate some answers to the questions posted though so I know if this is a something I can continue with or shouldnt
Hey guys,
I am looking to max out my car's potential and was talking to a buddy of mine yesterday. He said he wasnt sure about if my car could handle what I have planned and thought it would be best to ask everyone on here. So here it goes......
Currently I have a 99 C5 with a stock bottom end. The car has been modified with a Maggie S/C and a 3.1 pulley and a MagnaCharger cooler, long tube headers, I had the stock heads modified, it is currently running a z06 cam, Corsa exhaust, bigger injectors, and intake. I am sure there are a few minor things I am forgetting......
Currently the car is no where near its running potential since it has a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad tune. I think I am running about 300-350 hp. It also has gummy clutch syndrome.
Anyways, my plan was to put in a cam that would allow for better potential from the S/C (maybe from Lingenfelter or ECS or somewhere), then drop the pulley size to 2.9 or 2.8 (what ever is available - currently I have only found 2.8), then drop a new clutch in it (was told that a ls7 clutch kit could handle the power that I should be putting out as long as I dont always race it and dont put slicks on it - but if you dont think so, please let me know what i should get), then have a tuner tune it.
So with all that said......
1) do you think the stock bottom end can handle that without grenading?
2) do you have any recommendation for my choice of parts?
3) is there anything I need to look out for after this is done (if it can be done)? Or anything else that should be done so the stock bottom end can handle this?
Stock bottom end should be fine with a good tune just make sure you have plenty of fuel. I would add a meth kit to your plans. The LS7 clutch will probably be ok, but I would run something better, I have a level 5 monster clutch and it works great for me.
thanks cuziwin,
that seems to be more of an answer then an advertisement.
seems that instead of answering others want to advertise. Heck one advertised a c6....... hello i have a c5
anyways, i hope the ls7 clutch hold but really i am starting to think i should get something stronger. might be too late now though, told the gf what i wanted for christmas.
hopefully all will be great in the end.
cuziwin, is there a problem with not running meth (just trying to keep this a gas an go car)
btw you car is a monster
what was the end number on your dyno since i couldnt read them off the screen
Hey guys,
I am looking to max out my car's potential and was talking to a buddy of mine yesterday. He said he wasnt sure about if my car could handle what I have planned and thought it would be best to ask everyone on here. So here it goes......
Currently I have a 99 C5 with a stock bottom end. The car has been modified with a Maggie S/C and a 3.1 pulley and a MagnaCharger cooler, long tube headers, I had the stock heads modified, it is currently running a z06 cam, Corsa exhaust, bigger injectors, and intake. I am sure there are a few minor things I am forgetting......
Currently the car is no where near its running potential since it has a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad tune. I think I am running about 300-350 hp. It also has gummy clutch syndrome.
Anyways, my plan was to put in a cam that would allow for better potential from the S/C (maybe from Lingenfelter or ECS or somewhere), then drop the pulley size to 2.9 or 2.8 (what ever is available - currently I have only found 2.8), then drop a new clutch in it (was told that a ls7 clutch kit could handle the power that I should be putting out as long as I dont always race it and dont put slicks on it - but if you dont think so, please let me know what i should get), then have a tuner tune it.
So with all that said......
1) do you think the stock bottom end can handle that without grenading?
2) do you have any recommendation for my choice of parts?
3) is there anything I need to look out for after this is done (if it can be done)? Or anything else that should be done so the stock bottom end can handle this?
Any other information would be great. Thanks!!!
A stock bottom end can hold anything the original maggie could throw at it, unless you pull a Funcool. I thought people where having trouble with the ls7 clutch glazing over on a stock zo6 with tires back in 06 so i wouldnt run one. Look out for? if you think you car is only at 300-350 rwhp it better be because of timming cause other wise you might be damaging you engine from running extremely to rich. An ls6 cam isnt a bad start. Who did the heads? what you really need right now is a good tune and then i would go from there since you are down about at least 100hp from where you should be if what you said was true. How much boost are you making at 6k?
I know I am not a vendor but I had a similar setup on my 03 Z with a maggie, MTI blower cam which I still have forsale pm me if interested, headers and exhaust made 540rwh and 530rwt also it had meth on 10psi.
I sprayed the crap out of my stock '97 and no issues at all. I agree, the ls7 clutch is less than desirable, it couldn't even handle the stock Z06 power levels with spirited driving. The Aussie single is a good clutch for your proposed level. the Maggies can be made to perform quite well, and look bad azz.
Robert
thanks cuziwin,
that seems to be more of an answer then an advertisement.
seems that instead of answering others want to advertise. Heck one advertised a c6....... hello i have a c5
anyways, i hope the ls7 clutch hold but really i am starting to think i should get something stronger. might be too late now though, told the gf what i wanted for christmas.
hopefully all will be great in the end.
cuziwin, is there a problem with not running meth (just trying to keep this a gas an go car)
btw you car is a monster
what was the end number on your dyno since i couldnt read them off the screen
With the expense and/or pain in the ass of changing a clutch in our cars I really would recomend going with a different clutch, with the kinda of low end torque the KB's and maggies make I would be surprised if and ls7 clutch held up for very long.
There is nothing wrong with not running meth but the positive displacemant blower are known for high IAT's and the meth helps with this and allow for more aggresive timing.
I made 563hp and 520tq. But I have over 500tq at 2400 rpm. Needless to say traction is an issue! But fun as hell to drive!
so the general opinion is to not get the ls7 clutch?
i mean so many say it will hold the power, but then again i dont wanna spend the money and end up with what i basically what i have now (a faulty clutch)
i mean is this a opinion that it wont hold?
since so many people have said to use it (shops and such)
so if i dont use meth, what would you say i have to do to max out my power without grenading my engine?
i am guess-timating since i raced a civic and it was pushing around that hp and it was a tight race. i am sure i am way rich and dont have a proper tune. i plan to have my mechanic go over the car before plopping everything in. then i will drive it to the tune.
i was just trying to find out if my plan of mods was able to be done.
as for the meth, if i dont meth do i have to retard timing some and loose hp? if i do loose hp, how much do you think i will loose with meth from without meth
IMO, meth is a great addition. Not only for the safety factor, but you will be able to make more power per the same mods with a more aggressive tune. I have a Maggie on my Harley and the next mod is going to be meth so I can raise the boost, add the safety factor to my pump gas and have lower IATs. To me it's a win/win situation. back to the clutch, go to the C6 Z06 section and ask their opinions. I am sure that overwhelmingly they will suggest going with an aftermarket. just get one that will support the HP/TQ that you may see in the future as you decide to add more power, and you will, we all have, lol.
Robert
Hey guys,
I am looking to max out my car's potential and was talking to a buddy of mine yesterday. He said he wasnt sure about if my car could handle what I have planned and thought it would be best to ask everyone on here. So here it goes......
Currently I have a 99 C5 with a stock bottom end. The car has been modified with a Maggie S/C and a 3.1 pulley and a MagnaCharger cooler, long tube headers, I had the stock heads modified, it is currently running a z06 cam, Corsa exhaust, bigger injectors, and intake. I am sure there are a few minor things I am forgetting......
Currently the car is no where near its running potential since it has a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad tune. I think I am running about 300-350 hp. It also has gummy clutch syndrome.
Anyways, my plan was to put in a cam that would allow for better potential from the S/C (maybe from Lingenfelter or ECS or somewhere), then drop the pulley size to 2.9 or 2.8 (what ever is available - currently I have only found 2.8), then drop a new clutch in it (was told that a ls7 clutch kit could handle the power that I should be putting out as long as I dont always race it and dont put slicks on it - but if you dont think so, please let me know what i should get), then have a tuner tune it.
So with all that said......
1) do you think the stock bottom end can handle that without grenading?
2) do you have any recommendation for my choice of parts?
3) is there anything I need to look out for after this is done (if it can be done)? Or anything else that should be done so the stock bottom end can handle this?
Any other information would be great. Thanks!!!
The crank is good to 1000HP so that's ok. A high volume GM Performance oil pump would be a good thing. You should use very good I beam rods or better some H beam rods with 2000 hardware. This is a must IMO. You are better off with FI pistons and nitrided gas rings.
A good Cometic gasket will help. Your cam should likely be around 230/234 with near a 600 lift and LSA 114 to 118. If you want to turn up to 7 grand then go with Caddy lifters or better. Caddy work great and are relatively inexpensive. Your rockers are good to 7K. Stainless valves work fine. You can get Manley hollow stem and I'd go with at least 2.02. I used 2.05. Sodium filled GM valves are fine. You should nitride the top ring and consided ceramic coating on the pistons.
Your drivetrain needs attn. You'll have to build your tranny if its auto. You should consider changing the couplers. Getting Pfadt would help but be expensive. Your diff needs to be built, too. You must strengthen your half-shafts.
i am guess-timating since i raced a civic and it was pushing around that hp and it was a tight race. i am sure i am way rich and dont have a proper tune. i plan to have my mechanic go over the car before plopping everything in. then i will drive it to the tune.
i was just trying to find out if my plan of mods was able to be done.
as for the meth, if i dont meth do i have to retard timing some and loose hp? if i do loose hp, how much do you think i will loose with meth from without meth
OK.."stock heads modified"? What was done CC PP or what.
Injector???? What size 42# are good to about 550 RWHP
A good cam will help make sure you have ungraded the springs.
Meth??? Magnuson told me that meth will take the teflon off the rotors. You can believe them or the guys on the forum that say go with meth. If you use meth and tune for safety then HP will be the same. If you do meth and tune for power you pick up 30-40 hp before it breaks.
Hey guys,
I am looking to max out my car's potential and was talking to a buddy of mine yesterday. He said he wasnt sure about if my car could handle what I have planned and thought it would be best to ask everyone on here. So here it goes......
Currently I have a 99 C5 with a stock bottom end. The car has been modified with a Maggie S/C and a 3.1 pulley and a MagnaCharger cooler, long tube headers, I had the stock heads modified, it is currently running a z06 cam, Corsa exhaust, bigger injectors, and intake. I am sure there are a few minor things I am forgetting......
Currently the car is no where near its running potential since it has a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad tune. I think I am running about 300-350 hp. It also has gummy clutch syndrome.
Anyways, my plan was to put in a cam that would allow for better potential from the S/C (maybe from Lingenfelter or ECS or somewhere), then drop the pulley size to 2.9 or 2.8 (what ever is available - currently I have only found 2.8), then drop a new clutch in it (was told that a ls7 clutch kit could handle the power that I should be putting out as long as I dont always race it and dont put slicks on it - but if you dont think so, please let me know what i should get), then have a tuner tune it.
So with all that said......
1) do you think the stock bottom end can handle that without grenading?
2) do you have any recommendation for my choice of parts?
3) is there anything I need to look out for after this is done (if it can be done)? Or anything else that should be done so the stock bottom end can handle this?
Any other information would be great. Thanks!!!
the person tuning ur sc car will be critical & I see u live in biloxi ,the problem with someone tuning sc cars in the gulfcoast area are hard to find & there far & few ,u could try rwtd but he is never there ,ask me how i know,therefore to have ur car tuned correctly i would talk to shawn @ rajunracin,he is also an ecs authorized dealer & can do anything u need done to ur car as long as u have the money ,as sd tune is 600.00 & an maf tune is 500.00 ,i am in the same boat as far as tuners go, there arent any in this area & so i am having to trailer my car to a tuner out of state to get the tune that my car needs ,good luck on your project
.... Getting Pfadt would help but be expensive. Your diff needs to be built, too. You must strengthen your half-shafts.
That enough for you?
- Jobberone, thanks for the input but the idea was to NOT go internal. I just wanted to know if the stock bottom end could hold the stress I was going to be throwing at it with the top end bolt on/ add on's I am planning
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Originally Posted by Vega$Vette
OK.."stock heads modified"? What was done CC PP or what.
Injector???? What size 42# are good to about 550 RWHP
A good cam will help make sure you have ungraded the springs.
Meth??? Magnuson told me that meth will take the teflon off the rotors. You can believe them or the guys on the forum that say go with meth. If you use meth and tune for safety then HP will be the same. If you do meth and tune for power you pick up 30-40 hp before it breaks.
- Vega$Vette, Thanks. As for the input. The injectors I am not sure of the size/ lbs. i just know that my mechanic told me they were aftermarket and that they were green tops. Maybe what comes or is recommended with the Maggie s/c? I didnt put it in or anything, just had it all put in. So unfortunately, I dont know much about what the small details are, just the what they are. As for the heads, pretty sure the springs are upgraded, with everything that was done with the rods and lifters and such, i am sure the head is pretty tight. Finally, the meth injection. OK this might be a stupid question (since I am thinking NOS) but is meth a wet or dry setup? I mean do you inject the meth into the air, or into the fuel??
Also, where do you get meth and where do you get the meth kit?
i would rather keep the power down and not break the maggie, but i would like to explore all the option and such out there.
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Originally Posted by fsuforever
the person tuning ur sc car will be critical & I see u live in biloxi ,the problem with someone tuning sc cars in the gulfcoast area are hard to find & there far & few ,u could try rwtd but he is never there ,ask me how i know,therefore to have ur car tuned correctly i would talk to shawn @ rajunracin,he is also an ecs authorized dealer & can do anything u need done to ur car as long as u have the money ,as sd tune is 600.00 & an maf tune is 500.00 ,i am in the same boat as far as tuners go, there arent any in this area & so i am having to trailer my car to a tuner out of state to get the tune that my car needs ,good luck on your project
- fsuforever, you are very right with trying to find a proper shop, and you are VERY RIGHT ABOUT RWTD. i had a friend on here have to wait a long time to schedule an appt with him and then when he did what was a 1-2 hour job turned out to be all day because he NEVER came in til LATE. I called left messages, I had a local shop call and leave messages. I might just drive her to B.R. and have thunder racing do it. Where is cajun racing?? What is an sd tune and what is a maf tune?
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