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Old 10-10-2009, 04:46 PM   #1
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Default Where have the Kenne Bell boys gone? Heres one!

I think my stock manifolds and cats are all done. 80,000 miles on the stock valvesprings probably isn't helping much either.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/K...ull_712156.htm
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Old 10-10-2009, 06:08 PM   #2
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I think my stock manifolds and cats are all done. 80,000 miles on the stock valvesprings probably isn't helping much either.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/K...ull_712156.htm
Nice... what is on top of the blower on the dyno?
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Old 10-10-2009, 06:09 PM   #3
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Chris, I went with a YSI unit on the car should have it done by this coming weekend. My # with 2.8 with all the good **** on it didnt do much better. With my IAT out of the roof and that table all 0 out. I pulled the unit it cant be good on the car. After the 1st time down the track it just got too hot.
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Nice... what is on top of the blower on the dyno?
I'll guess ice.
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Old 10-10-2009, 07:10 PM   #5
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I'll guess ice.
yeah, looks like a bag of ice
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Old 10-10-2009, 07:29 PM   #6
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:18 PM   #7
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Nice... what is on top of the blower on the dyno?
Good eye nick.. Looks like two or three bags of it. But the car does sound good. Like the looks of the car also man...
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Old 10-10-2009, 10:04 PM   #8
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You see one dyno pull you seen them all.. Get that baby to the track and put down some good numbers.. Who has the quickest KB out there and at what ET??
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:17 AM   #9
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You see one dyno pull you seen them all.. Get that baby to the track and put down some good numbers.. Who has the quickest KB out there and at what ET??
I think I do 10.71 131
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:24 AM   #10
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Yep, I think Shane is the only one who has tracked a KB. I hope to get mine to the track in the Spring but mine is really just a daily driver/street car so the track doesn't get me to excited.
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You guys better step up your game.. There are head and cam cars out there that will put the smack down on you guys!!
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Yes it is a bag of ice. Heat soak is a problem with the Kenne Bell. With out a bag of ice my IAT get up above 180 after 3 or 4 pulls. I don't know if the ice was necessary this time I think the Meth was helping alot my IAT's stayed well below 140 the whole time. My best time so far is 11.70 at 124 on street tires. That was at 8lbs and before the Meth. Traction is obviously an issue!
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You guys better step up your game.. There are head and cam cars out there that will put the smack down on you guys!!
The same can be said about 95% of the f/i cars on the forum. Just take a look at rob's car before when it was only h/c and faceplated tranny. Its not that us f/i guys dont have the power to surpass them, its the fact that most people with big builds do a lot of street driving and dyno pulls because they dont want to have a box of broken rear end parts due to a little bit of wheel hop.

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Yes it is a bag of ice. Heat soak is a problem with the Kenne Bell. With out a bag of ice my IAT get up above 180 after 3 or 4 pulls. I don't know if the ice was necessary this time I think the Meth was helping alot my IAT's stayed well below 140 the whole time. My best time so far is 11.70 at 124 on street tires. That was at 8lbs and before the Meth. Traction is obviously an issue!
A buddy of mine did the same thing on his ported blower cobra and upper only, ice didnt seem to yield him any major results due to the cooler charge is only hitting the top of the blower which doesnt seem to yeild much cause the majority of the heat is created below this.

Im not sure why you guys are having iat issues. I can see the heatsoak obviously after multiple pulls and minimum air flow your going to see some. But most cars iat's are much lower than that. You sure you got everything hooked up correctly? Check your pump make sure its on correct

I dont plan on having any iat issues from the precautions i have taken, but if i would i have developed my own little system to keep things nice and chilly in there.
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Yes it is a bag of ice. Heat soak is a problem with the Kenne Bell. With out a bag of ice my IAT get up above 180 after 3 or 4 pulls. I don't know if the ice was necessary this time I think the Meth was helping alot my IAT's stayed well below 140 the whole time. My best time so far is 11.70 at 124 on street tires. That was at 8lbs and before the Meth. Traction is obviously an issue!
Let me start by saying I'm not talking smack about your setup.

What was your 60' on that run?
What kind of power are you putting down?
Race weight?
Any data logging on that run?

I ask because I ran 11.8@123 (1.84 sixty ft) in my 3550lb Camaro. Stock ls1 longblock/Trex cam and 6-speed.

If I were running a KB that'd be tough to swallow. There has got to be more in it and I'd like to see one Corvette with a KB get sorted out and run hard. I'd like to see more members HELP and encourage the guys that are trying with the KB. Yes, there are proven/easier ways to go fast but what fun is hotrodding if we all do it the same way?
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The key thing to good track times is the driver, not the car. You can take a 1000rwhp car and put a novice behind the wheel and he might not be able to get out of the 11's. You take an experienced racer behind the wheel of a 600rwhp car and he could go mid 10's. The track is related so much to a drivers skill that its a hard way to determine a setups potential.
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The key thing to good track times is the driver, not the car. You can take a 1000rwhp car and put a novice behind the wheel and he might not be able to get out of the 11's. You take an experienced racer behind the wheel of a 600rwhp car and he could go mid 10's. The track is related so much to a drivers skill that its a hard way to determine a setups potential.
If you are running the car all out you can tell a lot about how much power it's making from trap speed (mph) and 60' times alone regardless of who's driving it.
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If you are running the car all out you can tell a lot about how much power it's making from trap speed (mph) and 60' times alone regardless of who's driving it.
Sometimes. Would you say the same for this case?

I dont think its a fair assumption to say that your car cam only making probly 130rwhp less than him should be anywhere near him in et or mph. What else could it be besides seat time and driver.

Obviously there is a ton more in the set up. With the correct driver there is no reason that a 500+rwhp car is not a low ten or high 9 second car.
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So you are saying that all the guys that track there KB are bad drivers?? All I am saying is that, there are cars running 9s now in almost every setup.. But there are no KB cars running any numbers that are impressive.. Why???
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Sometimes. Would you say the same for this case?

I dont think its a fair assumption to say that your car cam only making probly 130rwhp less than him should be anywhere near him in et or mph. What else could it be besides seat time and driver.

Obviously there is a ton more in the set up. With the correct driver there is no reason that a 500+rwhp car is not a low ten or high 9 second car.
Yes. I would say the same because I'm not talking about e.t.

I'm talking about mph. If you are running a car all out it will go around the same mph regardless of traction. It'll actually lose a bit of mph with better traction.
My old Camaro made 410rwhp/390tq cam only and consistently trapped between 121-123 regardless of how much I spun or how sloppy I shifted gears. Unless I just missed a gear or let out it didn't slow down. This wasn't magical DA either. It was a 90degree humid July night in Oklahoma.

124mph on his car (if that's consistent at all) is slow which is why I wish I could see logs from the run.

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So you are saying that all the guys that track there KB are bad drivers?? All I am saying is that, there are cars running 9s now in almost every setup.. But there are no KB cars running any numbers that are impressive.. Why???
Let's not let this turn into what every other thread does. I seriously want to see a KB go balls out and an informative thread could help facilitate that.
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