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Old 06-12-2009, 05:18 AM   #1
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The car is pullied for 13 pounds, but my NA cam is bleeding some boost. The car has since been dropped off to get a blower cam and raise boost to 16 psi.


This is at 8 psi with the NA cam.

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Here is the dyno sheet also.

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Old 06-12-2009, 07:51 AM   #2
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Nice results.

With the proper blower cam, I could definitely see it picking up a bit across the powerband.
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Old 06-12-2009, 07:57 AM   #3
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Thats way low for that setup, especially for those cubes and that boost. How much timing is in it? Whats the compression ratio?

Thats not right at all. Considering your running on a dynojet, you should be MUCH closer if not over 700hp with that. Not trying to bust your bubble but somthing not right. Sure Jeff will step in.

We went over 700 with a crap cam on a 364 with the 2.6 unit on 93 with Meth, that was on a mustang dyno. Now granted that was on 13psi, not 8. But you have alot more cubes. There is ALOT left in that thing! Even if that is the one load cell dyno dynojet makes, that number is still very low or tune ULTRA conservatively.

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Old 06-12-2009, 08:40 AM   #4
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Nice numbers I am sure they will come up some with your new cam.
Be careful with your new power.
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:18 AM   #5
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Thats way low for that setup, especially for those cubes and that boost. How much timing is in it? Whats the compression ratio?

Thats not right at all. Considering your running on a dynojet, you should be MUCH closer if not over 700hp with that. Not trying to bust your bubble but somthing not right. Sure Jeff will step in.

We went over 700 with a crap cam on a 364 with the 2.6 unit on 93 with Meth, that was on a mustang dyno. Now granted that was on 13psi, not 8. But you have alot more cubes. There is ALOT left in that thing! Even if that is the one load cell dyno dynojet makes, that number is still very low or tune ULTRA conservatively.
Its the cam, jeff saw his combo before and agreed. Thats a big cam for a n/a 418 let alone a blown one and on a 108 lsa i can see what its not making much power it could be bleeding off nearly 7-8 psi off boost
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108....i wanna see a video of this idle'n! lol
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Nice results.

With the proper blower cam, I could definitely see it picking up a bit across the powerband.
For sure.

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Thats way low for that setup, especially for those cubes and that boost. How much timing is in it? Whats the compression ratio?

Thats not right at all. Considering your running on a dynojet, you should be MUCH closer if not over 700hp with that. Not trying to bust your bubble but somthing not right. Sure Jeff will step in.

We went over 700 with a crap cam on a 364 with the 2.6 unit on 93 with Meth, that was on a mustang dyno. Now granted that was on 13psi, not 8. But you have alot more cubes. There is ALOT left in that thing! Even if that is the one load cell dyno dynojet makes, that number is still very low or tune ULTRA conservatively.
It's the cam.
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Its the cam, jeff saw his combo before and agreed. Thats a big cam for a n/a 418 let alone a blown one and on a 108 lsa i can see what its not making much power it could be bleeding off nearly 7-8 psi off boost
I had that cam spec'd out for when I had my super vic intake setup. It's bleeding alot of boost.

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108....i wanna see a video of this idle'n! lol
Watch the dyno vid up top. Got a nice idle too it.
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Nice numbers I am sure they will come up some with your new cam.
Be careful with your new power.
Yeah. Should come up.

I need more powah!
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ya after i posted i noticed link... hehe sound good.
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Very nice numbers indeed and with the new cam and less ovelap it'll be wayyyy better!

I noticed on your Dyno sheet it was the STD Smoothing, what are your numbers @ the SAE Smoothing?

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Very nice numbers indeed and with the new cam and less ovelap it'll be wayyyy better!

I noticed on your Dyno sheet it was the STD Smoothing, what are your numbers @ the SAE Smoothing?

Thanks,Matt
I'm not sure about the SAE numbers.

I can give you the run conditions, but that's the best i can do:
98.13 F, 29.03 in-Hg, Humidity 35%, Std 1.07

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I'm not sure about the SAE numbers. At the time I just wanted to get the car running so I could start working out the bugs. I wasn't really worried about numbers. More worried about my butt dyno. It was feeling awesome, but now i'm back in Afghanistan. Most of the bugs are worked out now. Like the rocker arm bolts that snapped on my new heads. Now, all i can do is wait for the new cam and pulley to get put on.

I can give you the run conditions, but that's the best i can do:
98.13 F, 29.03 in-Hg, Humidity 35%, Std 1.07
You will be more than happy soon enough man when you get that new cam in, up the boost, and get a good tune in her she will be
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:55 PM   #13
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you should be well into the 700's if not 800's with the right blower cam. make it happen asap
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Old 06-12-2009, 03:50 PM   #14
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Its not only the cam, but 8psi on a 2.8H is WAYYYY to low. The absolute minimum allowable boost on a 2.8H is right about 13psi.

Along with that 418" motor, that thing is just swallowing up the boost. Turn the wick up, and you will make more power.

Also, watch the vacuum in that inlet when you turn the boost up.
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Its not only the cam, but 8psi on a 2.8H is WAYYYY to low. The absolute minimum allowable boost on a 2.8H is right about 13psi.

Along with that 418" motor, that thing is just swallowing up the boost. Turn the wick up, and you will make more power.

Also, watch the vacuum in that inlet when you turn the boost up.
I think he said it was pullied to make 13 but only makes 8. I would think the blower should be in its efficiency range with a 13lb pulley. Sounds like the cam is bleeding off the boost.

What compression is this motor running?
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Good catch. I didnt put 2 and 2 together.

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I think he said it was pullied to make 13 but only makes 8. I would think the blower should be in its efficiency range with a 13lb pulley. Sounds like the cam is bleeding off the boost.

What compression is this motor running?
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this should be good. what's the eta on the cam install and retune?
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I'm not sure about the SAE numbers.

I can give you the run conditions, but that's the best i can do:
98.13 F, 29.03 in-Hg, Humidity 35%, Std 1.07
No problem I was just wondering! I am looking forward to seeing you results - be careful

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I am interested in the end results also.
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:31 PM   #20
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I was drooling over your car the other day! Mine is there getting some work done as well.

The dyno they have is known for low numbers. I know plenty of them say that but I saw it with my own eyes. A friends car put down 396 on a Mustang dyno literally right down the road and took it over and only made 398.
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