It seems most go from supra to Z06, but i'm just curious if anyone has done the opposite. I know many of you on here bad-mouth imports, but single turbo supras can produce ridiculous amounts of power (700-900whp) on stock block and are one of few cars who have appreciated in value as opposed to depreciated. I also don't think i make use of the handling in the Z06 enough to miss it. Most of my outtings consist of straight, 2nd through 4th gear pulls.
This all just late night curiosity talking. Opinions?
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It seems most go from supra to Z06, but i'm just curious if anyone has done the opposite. I know many of you on here bad-mouth imports, but single turbo supras can produce ridiculous amounts of power (700-900whp) on stock block and are one of few cars who have appreciated in value as opposed to depreciated. I also don't think i make use of the handling in the Z06 enough to miss it. Most of my outtings consist of straight, 2nd through 4th gear pulls.
This all just late night curiosity talking. Opinions?
I own a coupe and for some reason I don't think I'd consider changing to an Import of anykind from the Vette!
I'd only add it to the collection but again if I had to do anything more I'd probably put a larger motor in and do APS Twin Turbos on like a 427 LS7 first! and go sick crazy with it!
I do although have plenty of respect for all cars and their performance enhancers no matter what vehicle it is!
Yes I own a Supra as well. I can tell you if you think modding a Vette is expensive try modding a Supra. Supras take to mods very well. If you think a Supra cant handle as well as a Z06 you better think again. Stock for stock the Supra will probably lose on a road course, but both with the same equal suspension upgrades and wheels/tires the Supra responds like a totally different car. I think people forget when the Supra was created it was created to compete against the likes of the Vette in a road race. My current FRC has sway bar upgrades and upgraded shocks and it handles very well considering the added weight. My Supra has adjustable shocks and upgraded springs and it handles a lot better. As a matter of fact a few local friends took our cars for a cruise and we hit a ton of corners and my Z06 buddies could not pull away from me in my automatic Supra with 19 inch SP500's..
Talk straight line performance both cars are different in their approach of building speed. Even when I am moving the Supra and the Vette around by pushing them the Supra weighs more, but rolls so much easier. The Supra also has a better drag coef than the Vette. There is no doubt the Supra can make more power than a Vette with todays technology. Because of the extra cubes the Vette can make more on pump gas. The most I have seen on pump gas out of a Supra is around 630rwhp safely. Anything above that and you will need to start using 100 octane and above.
Would I get rid of my vette? Only for C6Z06 or an already heavily modded Supra 6 speed..
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SW/BM 408ci w/AFR 225's 72cc
TTi X kit with standard small turbos
Turbo kit and engine installed by Dr. Phil
Location: LAS VEGAS NV- GTR for Now ( still love the vette)
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Originally Posted by Vince99FRC
Yes I own a Supra as well. I can tell you if you think modding a Vette is expensive try modding a Supra. Supras take to mods very well. If you think a Supra cant handle as well as a Z06 you better think again. Stock for stock the Supra will probably lose on a road course, but both with the same equal suspension upgrades and wheels/tires the Supra responds like a totally different car. I think people forget when the Supra was created it was created to compete against the likes of the Vette in a road race. My current FRC has sway bar upgrades and upgraded shocks and it handles very well considering the added weight. My Supra has adjustable shocks and upgraded springs and it handles a lot better. As a matter of fact a few local friends took our cars for a cruise and we hit a ton of corners and my Z06 buddies could not pull away from me in my automatic Supra with 19 inch SP500's..
Talk straight line performance both cars are different in their approach of building speed. Even when I am moving the Supra and the Vette around by pushing them the Supra weighs more, but rolls so much easier. The Supra also has a better drag coef than the Vette. There is no doubt the Supra can make more power than a Vette with todays technology. Because of the extra cubes the Vette can make more on pump gas. The most I have seen on pump gas out of a Supra is around 630rwhp safely. Anything above that and you will need to start using 100 octane and above.
Would I get rid of my vette? Only for C6Z06 or an already heavily modded Supra 6 speed..
intresting info.. wow only 630 on pump? do supras run meth? i would think they can go higher with meth. .. so you are tellling me all the 750+ supras are ALL running 100+ octane? .. that sucks..
intresting info.. wow only 630 on pump? do supras run meth? i would think they can go higher with meth. .. so you are tellling me all the 750+ supras are ALL running 100+ octane? .. that sucks..
Well running meth is not straight pump gas. Meth actually increases the octane of the pump gas you have in the tank. Remember a Supra is a 3.0L motor. Making 700rwhp plus will require higher octane fuel. Not many Supra guys run meth because in the past meth kits were not all that reliable. The only thing I dont like about Supras is they dont come with cup holders.
To each his own, but if I'm going to build a fast straight line car its not going to be a Supra. I can build an old C-4 or an F-Body or a Mustang or even a Buick GN for heck of lot less cash and go nines or more.
To each his own, but if I'm going to build a fast straight line car its not going to be a Supra. I can build an old C-4 or an F-Body or a Mustang or even a Buick GN for heck of lot less cash and go nines or more.
Location: LAS VEGAS NV- GTR for Now ( still love the vette)
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To each his own, but if I'm going to build a fast straight line car its not going to be a Supra. I can build an old C-4 or an F-Body or a Mustang or even a Buick GN for heck of lot less cash and go nines or more.
Yea.. but Supra's still Look Awesome for today's cars . a classic warrior car.. no one can drive around and disrespect a supra before knowing whats under the hood
you cant compare a supra to a GN in looks..I have seen supra's with nice body kits that look better than vettes..
Once in awhile I think about selling mine for the Titan Motorsports one that is for sale but I'm too deep in mine (money wise) to get a Supra. I love Supras.
Slightly off topic, but I recently went from my 3rd MKIV Supra to an 04 z06. Ironically, even I am very happy with my decision, I would rather have a "fully built" Supra over my z06. I should first clarify that I was looking for a fast dual purpose street/track car that required minimal wrench time.
I know some will say this is an apples-to-oranges comparison and I will agree, but given the "wish list" and budget (and the fact that many have switched between these two platforms), this is as "real world" of a comparison as it gets.
The z06 fits that bill quite well. With minimal mods (mainly heat management, brakes and a real seat) the z06 is an animal at the track with the limiting factor being me. (which is exactly how I wanted things) I should also mention that I am into my corvette a total of 10-20 hours of "sweat equity" and $35k including taxes, mods and 3.5 years left on my GM bumper to bumper warranty. Currently, my differential & power steering are leaking and guess what? --I won't be the one getting my hands dirty.
Anyone who's owned a well-built, fast Supra is either rich & pays to have all work done for them (I wouldn't qualify), doesn't drive their Supra more than a couple of thousand miles a year, or more likely requires a significant investment in time & resources. Building a fast, track worthy Supra, your choices are either....(keeping in mind a car that is comparable on the track to a z06 and be very, very durable)
a) Spend at least $40-$45k on a low mileage Supra, and spend months & another 10k installing a single turbo kit (stock turbos have good peak power, but their power delivery leaves much to be desired), electronics, brakes, exhaust, minimal weight reduction, maintenance (newest Supra is now 10 years old), clutch, gauges, heat management, adjustable control arms.
b) Get a higher mileage/older6 speed Supra for $25-30k and add more maintenance, replacing valve stem seals, suspension bushings, ignition, crank pulley, front/rear main seals.
I've heard of virtually no Supra can just hop on a track and run with months without worry in the above configuration. Every one will need time to properly sort out. This is one area where the C5 really excels, it needs very little "sorting out" time before you can have fun, GM did the work here and it shows. By this time, most start becoming very attached to their cars and ironically become afraid to bring it to the track seeing how much time was invested into it; the very thought of totaling a Supra that took months to locate, transport, build and sort out is downright nauseating. While I really don't have a death-wish, nor do I want to see anything bad happen, the truth of the matter is a Corvette can be replaced much more easily.
In the end, although I love motorsports, I really don't want my life to revolve around one. If I could have the above Supra for the same $35k and 10-20 hours of wrench time, I would likely still own one. Unfortunately, this is not reality. Infact, I keep in touch with some X-Supra owners and this is a pretty regular theme.
I should also add that I really don't want to turn this into a Corvette vs Supra pissing contest. --Just sharing some real world experiences.
-Mike
aka V8THIS on Supraforums
Last edited by idlingmike1; 11-04-2007 at 01:29 AM.
Yea.. but Supra's still Look Awesome for today's cars . a classic warrior car.. no one can drive around and disrespect a supra before knowing whats under the hood
you cant compare a supra to a GN in looks..I have seen supra's with nice body kits that look better than vettes..
Maybe to you, but to me just looks like just another Asian Import from the 90's. I'm just not into their looks, sorry.
I have had my Supra for almost 2 years now. The ONLY issues I have had is poor vendor support. Most of the places that are so called VENDORS on the Supra Forums are nothing but prior shade tree mechanics feeding off of someone else's R and D. You ask a question and you can never get a straight answer. All they are good at are changing parts. Many on the Supra Forums lie about things they have done ONLY to get someone else to try it. SF is full of trolls. I have many local Supra friends that are not rich, but they turn their own wrenches. 95% of the ones I know make over 800rwhp and only one has blown up his engine and that was due to poor tuning on his part. Three of my friends making over 800rwhp all run between a 74mm to 76mm turbo, upgraded fuel, clutch, valvetrain, and cam. Heads are stock along with the pistons and rods. They all trap over 145mph in the 1/4th and they have maybe 15 to 20k into their cars. All except one has driven trouble free. They usually ride around on pump gas making around 610rwhp and drive there cars quite often.
As with any car it depends on your power level when it comes to maintenance. To compare a 2 to 5 year old car with a 10 to 14 year to me is just silly. If you buy both used the maintenance will depend on how well the previous owner took care of the car. Everything has wear and tear.
Has anybody gone FI Z06 to single turbo supra?
and go sick crazy with it!
'98 LS1 Vette-Email 
.. that sucks..
