G-Z06's 408TT (908rwhp @ 15lbs)
09-10-2006, 02:06 PM
#41
Le Mans Master
MTI has been making magic with the racetronix + kenne bell boost a pump for some time now. I dont know what their secret is but I havent seen any other tuner achieve the numbers they have with this setup. My car maxed out around 650rwhp with that fuel setup.
I know better than to call BS though. I've seen a couple other MTI cars making 700rwhp with that fuel setup.
I know better than to call BS though. I've seen a couple other MTI cars making 700rwhp with that fuel setup.
09-10-2006, 03:18 PM
#42
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Originally Posted by mdhmi
I think Earl is just trying to say, politely, is that those numbers are total fabrications. I'm starting to wonder if MTI bought their dyno from someone out west. 
<and don't bother flaming me>
We've seen cars put on Weldon race pumps just to get a big dyno sheet. We know that the numbers you're talking about aren't going to be achieved with the fuel system you described.
Please don't think either we're speaking ill of that guys setup - we're just saying those dyno #'s are total bull.
<and don't bother flaming me>We've seen cars put on Weldon race pumps just to get a big dyno sheet. We know that the numbers you're talking about aren't going to be achieved with the fuel system you described.
Please don't think either we're speaking ill of that guys setup - we're just saying those dyno #'s are total bull.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1332134
The # say the pump can support 964 fwhp with a bap. Add meth and I don't see any problems making these #s on a fresh healthy pump with cool fuel.
Now, I'm not sure what will happen after extended use.
The car is impressive (408 with an sts is a nice setup), but I still don't think it will do that great at the track without the n20. With the n20 it would be crazy.
09-11-2006, 10:49 AM
#43
Originally Posted by mdhmi
I think Earl is just trying to say, politely, is that those numbers are total fabrications. I'm starting to wonder if MTI bought their dyno from someone out west. <and don't bother flaming me>
We've seen cars put on Weldon race pumps just to get a big dyno sheet. We know that the numbers you're talking about aren't going to be achieved with the fuel system you described.
Please don't think either we're speaking ill of that guys setup - we're just saying those dyno #'s are total bull.
<and don't bother flaming me>We've seen cars put on Weldon race pumps just to get a big dyno sheet. We know that the numbers you're talking about aren't going to be achieved with the fuel system you described.
Please don't think either we're speaking ill of that guys setup - we're just saying those dyno #'s are total bull.
If the car has the fuel system that we say it does, it's tuned and dialed in correctly and makes the power? Your plane ticket is on you, you buy everyone here at the shop dinner (our choice of restaurant) and you post a public apology here.
If there are any dyno tricks, a different fuel system or any other BS that you might find? I'll buy your plane ticket personally, give you $500.00 for your time and post whatever retraction you'd like me to post here.
In short, you're being called upon to back up your statements - are you prepared to do that?
David Coates
General Manager
MTI
Houston, TX
09-11-2006, 10:53 AM
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Sick 'em David!
Nobody takes the time like Jayson to dial the car in.
Nobody takes the time like Jayson to dial the car in.
09-11-2006, 11:11 AM
#46
It's not that it bothers me - I'm just giving him an opportunity to either prove or disprove what he's saying - a man with his level of confidence should have no problem at all accepting our offer.
I'll even pick him up at the airport.
I'll even pick him up at the airport.
09-11-2006, 11:23 AM
#47
Originally Posted by poolfanatic
It's not that it bothers me - I'm just giving him an opportunity to either prove or disprove what he's saying - a man with his level of confidence should have no problem at all accepting our offer.
I'll even pick him up at the airport.
I'll even pick him up at the airport.
j/k
09-11-2006, 12:09 PM
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I know Garret, and have met David. Neither one of those guys have any reason what so ever to lie about what the car has, or what it makes on the dyno. Garret is a car guy like everyone else here who posts dynos, time slips, etc
09-11-2006, 12:10 PM
#49
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Originally Posted by poolfanatic
Strong opinion - care to back it up? Buy a plane ticket to Houston, look over the car, check the dyno and watch the a/f ratio as we dyno it - you can have free and total access to everything.
09-11-2006, 12:26 PM
#50
Originally Posted by mdhmi
Thank you for the offer, but I think I'll sit back and wait for the 160 MPH time slip.
09-11-2006, 01:03 PM
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Well just got off the phone with Chris the builder of the car, and he said in queto "put your money were your mouth is and come down here" He is willing to put up $1k on top of Davids $500 If the car doesnt make the number with the fuel pump setup that was desribed.
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09-11-2006, 01:20 PM
#53
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by NV THIS
Well just got off the phone with Chris the builder of the car, and he said in queto "put your money were your mouth is and come down here" He is willing to put up $1k on top of Davids $500 If the car doesnt make the number with the fuel pump setup that was desribed.
Powell
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I think the purpose of this board is to inform and to look out for fellow vette owners. In that light, why not take the $1,500 and put it into an escrow account and offer the owner of the car an unconditional guarantee that you'll cover the cost of motor rebuild and upgraded fuel system if his motor dies due to fuel starvation. That way no one has to lose face and everyone is happy.
09-11-2006, 01:31 PM
#54
Originally Posted by Earl H
60lb injectors and racetronix w/ Boost-a-pump supporting 900+rwhp. This exactly the kind of bs posts that gets people in trouble. THERE IS NO F#CKING WAY THAT 60LB injectors, unless you have 15 of them, or a racetronix with a boost-a-pump can support 900rw or 1150fwhp without some sort of fuel supplemenation. Most people who know better will likely just sit back and not say anything and know that either you have no clue or the dyno numbers are bs. Rather than call the car or the builders on this, we'll just have to say that you are misinformed.
Earl, maybe it has 16 alky injectors.
09-11-2006, 01:50 PM
#55
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Originally Posted by poolfanatic
It's not that it bothers me - I'm just giving him an opportunity to either prove or disprove what he's saying - a man with his level of confidence should have no problem at all accepting our offer.
I'll even pick him up at the airport.
I'll even pick him up at the airport.
I have what might amount to a stupid question for you.. why do you still run 4.9? of Winpep when there is a version 7.5?
09-11-2006, 01:50 PM
#56
Originally Posted by poolfanatic
Strong opinion - care to back it up? Buy a plane ticket to Houston, look over the car, check the dyno and watch the a/f ratio as we dyno it - you can have free and total access to everything.
If the car has the fuel system that we say it does, it's tuned and dialed in correctly and makes the power? Your plane ticket is on you, you buy everyone here at the shop dinner (our choice of restaurant) and you post a public apology here.
If there are any dyno tricks, a different fuel system or any other BS that you might find? I'll buy your plane ticket personally, give you $500.00 for your time and post whatever retraction you'd like me to post here.
In short, you're being called upon to back up your statements - are you prepared to do that?
David Coates
General Manager
MTI
Houston, TX
If the car has the fuel system that we say it does, it's tuned and dialed in correctly and makes the power? Your plane ticket is on you, you buy everyone here at the shop dinner (our choice of restaurant) and you post a public apology here.
If there are any dyno tricks, a different fuel system or any other BS that you might find? I'll buy your plane ticket personally, give you $500.00 for your time and post whatever retraction you'd like me to post here.
In short, you're being called upon to back up your statements - are you prepared to do that?
David Coates
General Manager
MTI
Houston, TX
09-11-2006, 03:13 PM
#57
Team Owner
Originally Posted by BLOWNZO6
I have what might amount to a stupid question for you.. why do you still run 4.9? of Winpep when there is a version 7.5?
09-11-2006, 03:24 PM
#58
Originally Posted by mdhmi
Wasn't the older version much easier to fudge?
You declined my offer for some reason. If you decide to get away from the keyboard for a day and come down to Houston, shoot me a PM and let me know when your flight's landing.
Until then, have a wonderful day.
09-11-2006, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by poolfanatic
You've questioned the numbers, I've told you what we're willing to do.
You declined my offer for some reason. If you decide to get away from the keyboard for a day and come down to Houston, shoot me a PM and let me know when your flight's landing.
Until then, have a wonderful day.
You declined my offer for some reason. If you decide to get away from the keyboard for a day and come down to Houston, shoot me a PM and let me know when your flight's landing.
Until then, have a wonderful day.
09-11-2006, 03:36 PM
#60
Originally Posted by BLOWNZO6
Why not update your software?.. my local guy uses the newest version.
The bottom line here is that we're getting questioned on a public forum, I'm stepping up to the plate ..... where's everyone who has the doubts?
I can be at the airport in 45 minutes! Hobby or Intercontinetal?