blownrunner

Was the Lingenfelter 368 sold through Chevrolet, and added to the window sticker? Or were these conversions completed after the car was bought? I saw one for sale w/ 35k miles... 368, gears, baer, hurst, wheels, borla, etc.

Are they as cool/fast/desirable as the black widow cars?

Dunno if it is cooler than having one as sold from Chevrolet.

illenema

These were done after market and are very desirable. https://www.lingenfelter.com/engine-...-zr1-1990-1995

LT5corsa

All cars done with Lingenfelter are not thru chevrolet. Completed after they were bought

These are cool, very fast and very desirable. There are only 8 black widows done and can't compare a Lingenfelter to a black widow. Two different animals

If you want a car that is significant and very undervalued, buy a ZR-1. Drive a ZR-1 and you will understand



David

Graybeard ZR1

Two different animals entirely. The "Black Widows" are rare cars, therefore sought after by collectors. They vary in performance according to mods, but are essentially stock block LT5's, with top end mods. Mostly rated at 475hp at the crank.
The downside of the BW's is that they are the first of the LT'5 s to be modified, therefore the mods lack some of the refinements that are available today.
With the same basic stock shortblock, tuners like Marc H., and Pete P. are achieving anywhere from 500 to 550+hp.,with stock bottom end, porting and cams.

The Lingenfelter 368 is not a stock shortblock. Bigger liners, bigger pistons, higher compression, but with a stock crank. And has much, or all of the top-end work previously mentioned. Because of that, the Lingenfelter should be much quicker.
It also has enhanced collector value, because anything that the late, great, John Lingenfelter tuned has a sentimental value that cannot be duplicated.

JMHO, I'd prefer the Lingenfelter for superior performance, and leave the "Black Widows" to the collectors.

Dominic Sorresso

I'd agree. Lingenfelter would be at the top of my list for top tuner cars.

blownrunner

Thanks everyone. I take it that the Lingenfelter paperwork would show a date when the work was done, so you could determine if he was involved with it. What is the average appraisal on one?

LT5corsa

Need much more info before you can appraisal

Condition
Miles
Owners
Color
Additional upgrades
Maintenance done



David

Graybeard ZR1

No way of knowing, they vary wildly according to condition, mileage etc.
But modded cars, Lingenfelters in particular, are the some of the best deals. Cars that guys sunk $40, $50, $60K into are now going for cheap.

zrracer

All LPE 368 cars are not equal. The list of options was long for the motor work not to mention all the stuff you could do at both ends of the motor plus all the other component work as mentioned earlier
I have met people that "claim" to have had much more work on their cars than was actually done. Everyone got an itemized bill for the work that was done along with the dyno results from Grahm.

Robin

383LPE

I agree, a lot of cars are rep'd as LPE cars because someone put a Lingenfelter part on it. My 1990 383 LSV had the Lingenfelter Super Vette Badging, all the paperwork and Dyno from Graham. It was a rocket ship. I look forward to owning another one, however the current production does a good job of squeezing out performance. There was a lot more meat left on the bone in the late 80's early 90's.

blownrunner

Here is the info I got:
92 Lingenfelter 368 ZR-1, 409 rear end, Borla exhaust, 17' HRE wheels, new Nitto 555 tires, Baer brakes, Eradispeed rotors. 35000 miles on car, Hurst short shifter.
Is red on red, engine is also refinished in red.
The car looks in great shape, current owner has owned it for last 17 years.
VIN 1G1YZ23J9N5800209
Has Lingenfelter receipts.

Thanks, everyone.

illenema

27.5

USAZR1

Where is this car listed for sale? Link?

merlinskw

Just bought a 1992 C4 with a lingenfelter 383 installation was done by lingenfelter along with the transmission upgrade, got the paperwork included.

Arctic91

Not a ZR-1 but if this is the one just purchased in the mid-$5k range, it was a great buy on your part. The car looks awesome and should be quick!

Scott