Rebuilt Bilstein's
#1
Drifting
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Rebuilt Bilstein's
I just installed my rebuilt Bilstein's on my '94 ZR-1. What a difference it has made in the handling of the car. It took longer than they originally quoted to return the shocks. Instead of 4-6 weeks it took 3 months. Well worth the wait time though. They had to get new rods from Bilstein in Germany before the rebuild. Good thing I had another Vette to drive. I was going through withdrawls of not driving the ZR-1! Tough to look at it for 3 months on blocks! All in all, saved a bunch of money over buying new shocks.
#2
Drifting
I just installed my rebuilt Bilstein's on my '94 ZR-1. What a difference it has made in the handling of the car. It took longer than they originally quoted to return the shocks. Instead of 4-6 weeks it took 3 months. Well worth the wait time though. They had to get new rods from Bilstein in Germany before the rebuild. Good thing I had another Vette to drive. I was going through withdrawls of not driving the ZR-1! Tough to look at it for 3 months on blocks! All in all, saved a bunch of money over buying new shocks.
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I've been thinking about having mine rebuilt, but I've heard different stories about the warranty of rebuilt shocks ... what's the real story?
#4
Yeah, I'd like more info on this as well. I only have 32k miles but they are still 19 years old.
What's the cost comparison of rebuilt vs. new purchase?
Doesn't Bilstein put in the special valving when rebuilt? Do you get that valving on the new ones?
I'd like to get it done before driving to BG in May.
What's the cost comparison of rebuilt vs. new purchase?
Doesn't Bilstein put in the special valving when rebuilt? Do you get that valving on the new ones?
I'd like to get it done before driving to BG in May.
#5
Drifting
"....Doesn't Bilstein put in the special valving when rebuilt? Do you get that valving on the new ones?"
I believe the Maraca valve is a choice. It starts its variableness not at zero degrees up to 180 on turning the rod and exposing more or less of the damping valve in the process but at something like 82 degrees so rotates faster between 82 and 180 degrees versus 0-180 degrees for change when set. I think it also removes the lowest, softest setting speed step in the speed related changes that control the actual rotating in any of the three settings so you go from 18 to 15 but most who've done it like it a lot from what I read.
You'd normally have them either put that in or stock when you returned yours and made the order I would think. I read on the other forum I think that the warranty on new shocks is far longer than rebuild but if you want the relatively stiffer Maraca valved then you have them rebuild it. I'm not sure I'd be all that concerned with warranty issues on something as well done as Billstein shocks and when mine go I plan to do the rebuild with the Maraca valve. I'd think your shocks would last into the 75-100,000 miles range unless the car is raced on road races very hard, very long or there is some visual sign of failure.
Here is a link to a Hib Halverson article on it. http://corvetteactioncenter.com/tech...src_page3.html
I suppose actuators could fail or the SRC black box controller for the system. The article shows it in the floor well behind the driver next to the abs controller under the doored rear deck but I haven't looked yet. Don't know if when revalving you also change some chip in the SRC (selective ride control) box as well. Would ask since it's a Billstein system done in conjunction with Corvette. A separate post somewhere talks about the revalving but this is a good article on the basic system which isn't so basic at all.
Lance Pearson
I believe the Maraca valve is a choice. It starts its variableness not at zero degrees up to 180 on turning the rod and exposing more or less of the damping valve in the process but at something like 82 degrees so rotates faster between 82 and 180 degrees versus 0-180 degrees for change when set. I think it also removes the lowest, softest setting speed step in the speed related changes that control the actual rotating in any of the three settings so you go from 18 to 15 but most who've done it like it a lot from what I read.
You'd normally have them either put that in or stock when you returned yours and made the order I would think. I read on the other forum I think that the warranty on new shocks is far longer than rebuild but if you want the relatively stiffer Maraca valved then you have them rebuild it. I'm not sure I'd be all that concerned with warranty issues on something as well done as Billstein shocks and when mine go I plan to do the rebuild with the Maraca valve. I'd think your shocks would last into the 75-100,000 miles range unless the car is raced on road races very hard, very long or there is some visual sign of failure.
Here is a link to a Hib Halverson article on it. http://corvetteactioncenter.com/tech...src_page3.html
I suppose actuators could fail or the SRC black box controller for the system. The article shows it in the floor well behind the driver next to the abs controller under the doored rear deck but I haven't looked yet. Don't know if when revalving you also change some chip in the SRC (selective ride control) box as well. Would ask since it's a Billstein system done in conjunction with Corvette. A separate post somewhere talks about the revalving but this is a good article on the basic system which isn't so basic at all.
Lance Pearson
Last edited by LancePearson; 02-04-2013 at 09:16 AM. Reason: added
#6
Drifting
Thread Starter
I did the rebuild to save money. I priced new shocks at $230 ea. and did rebuild at $100 ea. But needed new rods so it was an extra $45 per shock. Still saved money and still have the original shocks.
#7
1. Did you have them do the Maraca valve and if so what do you think?
2. Where did you send them?
3. How long did it take them?
4. Did they really not repaint them?
Ok...4 questions.
By the way...loved the write up in Vette mag. You've got a couple of beautiful cars. I'm half jealous!
#8
Melting Slicks
Three questions:
1. Did you have them do the Maraca valve and if so what do you think?
2. Where did you send them?
3. How long did it take them?
4. Did they really not repaint them?
Ok...4 questions.
By the way...loved the write up in Vette mag. You've got a couple of beautiful cars. I'm half jealous!
1. Did you have them do the Maraca valve and if so what do you think?
2. Where did you send them?
3. How long did it take them?
4. Did they really not repaint them?
Ok...4 questions.
By the way...loved the write up in Vette mag. You've got a couple of beautiful cars. I'm half jealous!
If you buy a new set they will have a lifetime warranty.
I sent the shocks to Bilstein in South California. Used this form http://www.bilsteinus.com/downloads/...rder-form.html
Mine took 2.5 months to get back to me. They were having trouble getting rods for Germany.
They did not paint them. But they cleaned them up. And put on a new sticker.
Last edited by Coupe89; 02-05-2013 at 01:13 AM.
#10
I just got mine back from Bilstien as well. Took two months. Same story-back ordered shafts. I decided to do factory valving as I was reading here how some thought the stiffer valving was too stiff. I sandblasted and painted and redecaled them last weekend and plan to reinstall next weekend. I won't be able to try them out for a while as we have about two feet of snow here.
#11
Drifting
Thread Starter
Three questions:
1. Did you have them do the Maraca valve and if so what do you think?
2. Where did you send them?
3. How long did it take them?
4. Did they really not repaint them?
Ok...4 questions.
By the way...loved the write up in Vette mag. You've got a couple of beautiful cars. I'm half jealous!
1. Did you have them do the Maraca valve and if so what do you think?
2. Where did you send them?
3. How long did it take them?
4. Did they really not repaint them?
Ok...4 questions.
By the way...loved the write up in Vette mag. You've got a couple of beautiful cars. I'm half jealous!
1. Did stock valving as I talked to one guy before hand and said Maraca valving was really stiff.
2. www.bilsteinus.com . Sent to Thyssenkrupp Bilstein of American in Southern Calif. (800)537-1085
3. Took 3 months on waiting for rods from Germany. Would have been much less time if the rods were ok.
4. No repaint but they did clean up really nice.
Thanks for your comment on my beautiful cars in Vette Magazine.
#12
Racer
Are the 89-91 FX3 interchangeable with 92-95 FX3 if you change the gears?
I want to send my originals out to be rebuilt. Has anyone sent shocks out for rebuild lately? I wonder what the current turn around time is.
I want to send my originals out to be rebuilt. Has anyone sent shocks out for rebuild lately? I wonder what the current turn around time is.
#13
Tech Contributor
Last edited by Goldcylon; 10-07-2013 at 10:31 AM.
#14
Racer
I ended up sending my original shocks to Delta Vee. It was cheaper and faster turnaround. Bilstein was quoting turnaround times of up to 3 months. Not mention the rear rods are discontinued. Front rods are pending being discontinued also for 1992-1995 FX3 shock.
http://deltavee.net/
http://deltavee.net/
Last edited by SnAkeDr; 10-08-2013 at 08:48 PM.
#16
Racer
$99 for the service. If the shock is leaking from the rod guide (where chrome rod enters the shock body) that part is $25. They also address the seal leaking at the gear. I believe Bistein addresses it by replacing the rod, which is being phased out.
My shocks will arrive at Delta Vee today. I will let you know how I made out.
My shocks will arrive at Delta Vee today. I will let you know how I made out.
#17
Racer
$396.00. Faster turnaround than Bilstein. DeltaVee repairs the rods themselves by replacing the seals near the gear I believe. If rod is leaking at the gear Bilstein will replace the rod as a unit. Rob at Delta Vee did the job in a couple of days.
Painting the shocks now. Will have them mounted tomorrow.
Painting the shocks now. Will have them mounted tomorrow.
#18
$396.00. Faster turnaround than Bilstein. DeltaVee repairs the rods themselves by replacing the seals near the gear I believe. If rod is leaking at the gear Bilstein will replace the rod as a unit. Rob at Delta Vee did the job in a couple of days.
Painting the shocks now. Will have them mounted tomorrow.
Painting the shocks now. Will have them mounted tomorrow.
#19
Racer
It should be a pleasant experience. Its good to know there's alternative because Biltstein has stopped manufacturing the rods. I will definitely have follow up posts. I don't post and POOF!