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Old 07-13-2012, 01:08 PM
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My buddy recently upgraded his 1988 Callaway to a 3" exhaust. The car is suffering from some boost creep issues. He called Callaway and they told him he needed to port the wastegates on his turbos and they could do so for $2500. Having ported wastegates before on other applications I can't see where the cost would come form . But I wanted to check to see if there was something I was missing. I also wanted to see if there were shops like Precision, Limit Engineering, or Blounch, or others that folks might have used for porting in the past who might be more reasonable in cost.
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$55.....if I can get my 87 TT off tonight going there tomorrow
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Make sure the egr valve is functioning properly first.

I had them port mine in 2003 I believe, and I still had problems til I fixed my stuck egr.
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$2500 Wow!

How about a $450 boost controller first?

What PSI does your buddy have his boost set at?
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$55.....if I can get my 87 TT off tonight going there tomorrow
Lee I'm not sure that $55 dollar price would include machining a new valve. The price has gone up a bit since I had mine done. There are probably more affordable options available.
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Originally Posted by J-Rod
My buddy recently upgraded his 1988 Callaway to a 3" exhaust. The car is suffering from some boost creep issues. He called Callaway and they told him he needed to port the wastegates on his turbos and they could do so for $2500. Having ported wastegates before on other applications I can't see where the cost would come form . But I wanted to check to see if there was something I was missing. I also wanted to see if there were shops like Precision, Limit Engineering, or Blounch, or others that folks might have used for porting in the past who might be more reasonable in cost.
J-Rod. I woul like to hear what your buddy does for the final solution. If you don't mind please update this thread.

Thanks
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$2500 Wow!

How about a $450 boost controller first?

What PSI does your buddy have his boost set at?
He has a boost controller which will not control the boost at this point. You set the boost down, and it still goes past the set point. He's done the upgraded wonderbar, and 3" exhaust, and now it just wants to boost creep against the boost controller. Callway told him it was the turbos based on the exhaust and the wonderbar upgrade.

Limit engineering rebuilt the turbos about 5 years ago. He called them and they said they were not interested in porting them, but said he could do the job with a dremel tool, and they would talk him through what he needed to do. They said it was pretty simple. I gave him the number for pretuning to check with them and also mentioned checking the EGR.
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What springs is he running?
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A new valve is not always need depending on the turbo, some ports are so much smaller than the valve a simple port job fixes the issue.
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$2500???Must not wanna do it.

I need to start porting wastegates looks like.
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We have used Precision Turbo in the past with great results. Good luck.

I'll bet that Callaway has some great info. on the subject.

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The bigger exhaust will allow the turbos to spool up quicker on the initial launch, which will peg the boost gauge and beyond, but should start to calm down as he goes thru the gears. Is it showing runaway boost in the higher gears?
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Also, has he manually tested the wastegate and made sure that the diaphragm is still intact?
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Originally Posted by 8388
The bigger exhaust will allow the turbos to spool up quicker on the initial launch, which will peg the boost gauge and beyond, but should start to calm down as he goes thru the gears. Is it showing runaway boost in the higher gears?
Sam,

Do you have this issue?

I don!t but I still run cats and mufflers. I do have the big wonderbar and 15lb springs in the wastegates.
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Originally Posted by boostedmaxPSI
Sam,

Do you have this issue?

I don!t but I still run cats and mufflers. I do have the big wonderbar and 15lb springs in the wastegates.
No, not really and I do have a very free flowing 3" exhaust as well, along with the wonder bar and spring and huge air filter. Now, I did change the intake manifold system, and it now revs easily past 6000 rpms verses the stock 5200 rpms. If I were to stay in any gear beyond the usable power range, then it would probably creep up, but obviously that's not the way to drive these cars.

Before he starts porting anything, he should test the wastegate. If it's the original, the diaphragm may not be holding.
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Originally Posted by 8388
No, not really and I do have a very free flowing 3" exhaust as well, along with the wonder bar and spring and huge air filter. Now, I did change the intake manifold system, and it now revs easily past 6000 rpms verses the stock 5200 rpms. If I were to stay in any gear beyond the usable power range, then it would probably creep up, but obviously that's not the way to drive these cars.

Before he starts porting anything, he should test the wastegate. If it's the original, the diaphragm may not be holding.
I am bringing this thread back from the dead. Does anyone have a picture of what a ported turbo looks like. I have the turbos off, and the wastegate is a little different than the ones I am used to looking at. The Diaphragm goes straight down and seals off, rather than a typical arm/puck design. When folks are porting the turbos are they just opening up the area under the puck? Is there any advantage to porting the passage leading from the valve to the exhaust? The passage looks tight and I am not sure you could get a larger puck in.

Also as mentioned, I am going to check the springs etc... While we have them apart. Th reason for taking them off was we found the exhaust manifolds had cracked. Has anyone had an issue with the manifolds cracking,and if so did you upgrade to the stainless units which are about $1000 more than new mild steel units.
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Originally Posted by J-Rod
I am bringing this thread back from the dead. Does anyone have a picture of what a ported turbo looks like. I have the turbos off, and the wastegate is a little different than the ones I am used to looking at. The Diaphragm goes straight down and seals off, rather than a typical arm/puck design. When folks are porting the turbos are they just opening up the area under the puck? Is there any advantage to porting the passage leading from the valve to the exhaust? The passage looks tight and I am not sure you could get a larger puck in.

Also as mentioned, I am going to check the springs etc... While we have them apart. Th reason for taking them off was we found the exhaust manifolds had cracked. Has anyone had an issue with the manifolds cracking,and if so did you upgrade to the stainless units which are about $1000 more than new mild steel units.
The porting is done on the valve opening in the housing and a larger valve is put into place to allow more gases to by pass the turbine.

From the exterior there isn't any noticeable change in the appearance on the wastegate and turbo.

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