As many of you know, the ZR-1 Parts are getting harder and harder to source now, Gm dropping items Left & Right.
I want to start getting some items rebuilt, here is what I need, if any of you have these parts laying around after taking them off of your cars and replacing them with new parts, I'm buying them to have them reconditioned, this way, the parts will be available for people when needed, otherwise, we're going to be screwed!
I need Oil cooler hoses for the 90-92 PART # 12472184 Used that are leaking $50.00 each
ECM's Any years, any condition $50.00
Engine bearings # 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 No money for these, as chances are, they are scrap anyway, anyone who sends me a set of bearings in decent condition, I'll give you a top end gasket set, valued @ $149.99
Full set of rod & crank bolts, no idea on value, you tell me what you want, or you can loan me a set for a couple months till i get them remanufactured & when i do, i'll give the person who sent me the set, a new set for free.
Rear Bumpers, new or used.
I'll be adding to the list as and when I get an idea of what else is needed.
I'm also planning on having the bearings remanufactured, I have to have a minimum run produced, as you can imagine, it isn't going to be cheap I suspect the cost will be around $600.00 per set. So anyone who can commit to buying a set & giving me an idea of what the interest is will help me determine wether or not to proceed, as at the end of the day, i still have to make a profit & be able to sell parts. I don't take any money up front, just a yes or no answer and how many sets you want is all required, no monies needed until they are ready to ship.
I have a leaking original oil cooler I just pulled off my 1990 about two months ago. I'd be glad to help you in your effort to pick us up from where GM drops us. Maybe I can take my $50 in parts.
$50.00 Credit for the leaking hose is yours, you have my address, send it off when ready. That makes 5 oil cooler hoses i collected now, not bad going ( The power of the net)
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A few of the main bearings are unobtainum. That means for the time being that rebuilds and stroker engines are on hold. Also when they are produced they will be ultra expensive. Long live the strokers.
I have a leaking oil cooler hose as well...I got a good set in trade...
I have seen some nice aftermarket hoses...maybe that is a way to go...I do think however that the oil cooler hoses can be rebuilt at a pretty low cost. Maybe I will rebuild mine and let everyone know how and the prices....random Thoughts...
I JUST sold a broke ECM to someone on the forum...for $50.
As for the bearings...why don't you just take the ones out of the White Car you just bought?....that motor is toast anyway...
Uly
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Originally Posted by guinnessdood
As for the bearings...why don't you just take the ones out of the White Car you just bought?....that motor is toast anyway...
Hence the need for bearings. It's always better to have something new to get a copy made of. The GM bearings were run off in a batch during development of the motor. None were porbably made after 89.
I haven't had time to touch that White car yet, it's sitting in my warehouse at the minute. Bearings will for sure be the most needed part on the ZR-1 engine. I've tried everyone i know & nobody has a full set, new or used.
It's about as daft as can be to rebuild a motor and have to use 100,000 mile old bearings, but as it stands now, that's what will have to be done unless i can have them re-made.
I JUST sold a broke ECM to someone on the forum...for $50.
We don't need someone to rebuild them, we need someone to manufacture new ones. And yes, I realize that's a huge undertaking. Bigger than huge... ginormous.
However, there may be cheaper options out there, but require more of a time investment. I'm looking into this as we speak.
I haven't had time to touch that White car yet, it's sitting in my warehouse at the minute. Bearings will for sure be the most needed part on the ZR-1 engine. I've tried everyone i know & nobody has a full set, new or used.
It's about as daft as can be to rebuild a motor and have to use 100,000 mile old bearings, but as it stands now, that's what will have to be done unless i can have them re-made.
What about using some bearings that are close and regrinding the crank or block/caps? Is there any chance of that? That would be cheaper I would imagine...
You forget what country we live in. The good ole American Consumer wants things now, right now! with the least amount of hassle. You think for one minute they are going to buy crank bearings and then, errrrrrrrrrr wait a minute, don't forget you need to take your crank to a machine shop and have it ground down to fit the new bearing i just sold you? I don't think for one minute it will go down too well. The bearings must be identical to the ones in the car, plane and simple.
As to having new ECM's made, that will not happen, it will cost tens of thousands to have them re produced, as it stands, GM just rebuilt them anyway. It's a no brainer to have them rebuilt they even come with 12 month warranties and will be as good as a brand new unit.
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You forget what country we live in. The good ole American Consumer wants things now, right now! with the least amount of hassle. You think for one minute they are going to buy crank bearings and then, errrrrrrrrrr wait a minute, don't forget you need to take your crank to a machine shop and have it ground down to fit the new bearing i just sold you? I don't think for one minute it will go down too well. The bearings must be identical to the ones in the car, plane and simple.
Limey, thanks for taking an interest in keeping these things going, its appreciated! We need more guys like you. If I come across anything I can loan I will.
I agree, i picked them up from the warehouse on Thursday and will ship them back to you Monday, thanks for sending them & giving it a shot, but at the end of the day, it was way too expensive to persue.
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Limey, thanks for taking an interest in keeping these things going, its appreciated! We need more guys like you. If I come across anything I can loan I will.
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defiantly have the conecting rod bolts
Is that just a really good pun or did you mean definitely? 2 n's in connecting.
And Kurt its PURSUE...
Sorry, I just get a real kick out of the spelling game with the advent of the ever increasing use of text mode in our modern world. I have done it many times myself. Sometimes a bad typo can really screw up your communication. One of my multi-millionaire friends who I assumed was a pretty smart guy recently EXCEPTED a nomination for a vice president position via an e-mail. I always get flamed for pointing this stuff out, I just find it funny in a world where sometimes correct punctuation doesn't matter anymore and the CAPS LOCK key is considered a way to yell at someone.
On a more important note, the subject of this thread:
After building this last car, I certainly learned the importance of fittings and magic black boxes and stupid little plastic parts and metal machined parts that the car simply won't function without. I often think, man, if this breaks I will be so screwed, I won't know what to do. I can certainly see the value of keeping an original car original and I can also certainly see why Kurt would want to be the one to stock all of this stuff and I am really happy he is doing it...but you know, this is definitely a major issue that comes with owning a car like this and all these issues are always lurking in the back of our minds...you know...What happens if or when? We will be screwed on a lot of this stuff...little parts and fittings that are nowhere to be found, I often wonder how all the really exotic car guys handle it when unobtanium breaks or a complicated rubber hose finally fails...it's got to be bad for them at times. It seems we should utilize the aftermarket as a lot of this stuff goes bad. How hard could it be to fabricate some oil cooler plumbing? Do these lines have impossible fittings and lines? Speaking of that, Where is our throttlebody/plenum coolant bypass kits that someone promised us?
As far as the ECM goes, I have yet another question: Do any of you know a single ZR1 in the world that utilizes an other than stock ECM like a Big Stuff 3 box...it just keeps sticking in the back of mind that that box is capable of running 16 injectors and I wonder if any of us will ever be backed into a corner forcing us to use something like that to keep the baby alive? Basta.
In the meantime....Rock On,
Rick
P.S. I contumaciously have many old parts taking up space in my life as well. Some that come to mind are cats from a 94-96 impalla ss and a window track assembly from a camry that I just couldn't part with. The window track cost $400 to replace! All it needed was a motor but didn't have time to locate one and the stealer would only sell the replacement an entire assembly...what a waste...happy to report it wasn't my camry, but my sister has one and that is why I still have it. I did execute the repair though, flawlessly I might add even if I do say so myself, I hate taking off door panels.
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