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Old 03-02-2005, 05:48 PM
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r134 was $50 for a tank now its $300 whats up?
Old 03-02-2005, 07:12 PM
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It's being phased out and they want you to convert to HFc134A. Pretty soon you won't be able to buy that either making the only way to get your a/c charged is to get **** raped by a dealer or service center. Gotta love that unkle sam. he's turning more "red" by the day eh comrade.
Old 03-02-2005, 09:18 PM
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Believe it or not you can still buy it on Ebay for cheap with no license required...
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Is hfc134a diff than r134 if not why has it gone up from 50 to 300 a tank in 2 weeks. If it is diff wher do you get hfc134 and why the sudden change
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yea it doesn't have the chlorine molecule in it = less ozone depletion. I have converted countless cars over, all you need is a kit from the Zone. AutoZone haha. But serioisly to do it right you should change the orifice in the evaporator. After that I'd say it works even better than R-34
Old 03-03-2005, 01:15 PM
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Let's not be to hard on Uncle Sam. It's the save the earth people behind the cost increase. And if you search it even further back, Dupont who holds the patent on freon is backing the save the earth people even though they don't know it!
Old 03-03-2005, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by zr11990broken
Is hfc134a diff than r134 if not why has it gone up from 50 to 300 a tank in 2 weeks. If it is diff wher do you get hfc134 and why the sudden change
No, they are the same. The price has gone up due to supply shortages.
Old 03-04-2005, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by loflite
Let's not be to hard on Uncle Sam. It's the save the earth people behind the cost increase. And if you search it even further back, Dupont who holds the patent on freon is backing the save the earth people even though they don't know it!
Another post claims a shortage for the cost. How are the "save the earth people" behind the cost? Its good to see Dupont actually doing good for a change, regardless of knowledge of doing so.
Old 03-06-2005, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Baldturbofreak
It's being phased out and they want you to convert to HFc134A. Pretty soon you won't be able to buy that either making the only way to get your a/c charged is to get **** raped by a dealer or service center. Gotta love that unkle sam. he's turning more "red" by the day eh comrade.

I missed the boat on R12 15 years ago when I could have stocked up on it for $1/can, not this time with R134...

Everytime I find R134a on sale somewhere (Walmart, Big Lots, etc) I buy a few cans and stack them in the garage... Last stuff I picked up was $2.50/can...

After I paid $50/lb for R12 several years ago, I'm never getting caught with my pants down again...
Old 03-06-2005, 09:19 PM
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that makes 2 of us. Got a case of little 12oz cans myself. Should probably buy another.
Old 03-07-2005, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Baldturbofreak
that makes 2 of us. Got a case of little 12oz cans myself. Should probably buy another.
I have a big daddy tank of it - I think it was $300 when it was being phased out - now its probably worth a grand

Of course my AC has worked flawlessly but I am sure once I sell the tank that my AC will go kaput
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I just bought 4, 30 lb bottles of it from Autozone for $250 a bottle. All the others were $300. They are saying it will go up to $400 a bottle by summer. Also gas may go up to $2.60 (average throughout the country) by summer. Bend over and smile.

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