2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (FastEddieLT4)
I know the lt4 would toast a 02 or older mach 1 a lt1 would also....I think in 03 they added major power to the mach 1 in 02 I think they had 305hp I think it's the same at the 03 svt in 03 and 04 ones.
I see 02 and older ones at the track running 14's
I see 02 and older ones at the track running 14's
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (FastEddieLT4)
What's there to know other than the LT4 would stomp on that stang big time.
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (FastEddieLT4)
The only late model stock stang capable of beating an LT-4 is the '03 Cobra - assuming a decent driver in the LT-4.
I know the Cobra is fast - one ran a 12.85 against my 12.93. I was pulling third and saw this Mustang next to me and thought WTF, then I came up for our next run and saw it was a Cobra. Nice guy driving it too.
I know the Cobra is fast - one ran a 12.85 against my 12.93. I was pulling third and saw this Mustang next to me and thought WTF, then I came up for our next run and saw it was a Cobra. Nice guy driving it too.
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (LT-4 CE)
A district court judge smoked me in his (03 Cobra)...I totally let him win too!!!
Well, other then that whole pedal mashed to the floor thing and that whole me being a stock 86... :bb
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Well, other then that whole pedal mashed to the floor thing and that whole me being a stock 86... :bb
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (comp94)
I don't see the problem.
Even a stock LT1 should be able to beat a 2003 Mach 1. They only run low 14's in stock trim, which is bested by pretty much any LT1 C4.
An LT4, would totally wipe them up.
I've also read that they are having some odd issues with the power the MACH1's are putting down in real life. Some VERY few examples run like a raped ape with just an exhaust, intake and chip (low 13's to high 12's), but most others are luckt to break a mid to high 13 second run in the 1/4 with mods and stickies.
Even a stock LT1 should be able to beat a 2003 Mach 1. They only run low 14's in stock trim, which is bested by pretty much any LT1 C4.
An LT4, would totally wipe them up.
I've also read that they are having some odd issues with the power the MACH1's are putting down in real life. Some VERY few examples run like a raped ape with just an exhaust, intake and chip (low 13's to high 12's), but most others are luckt to break a mid to high 13 second run in the 1/4 with mods and stickies.
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (MrNuke)
I agree MrNuke my 95 vert fot 13.2 and it's bone stock a mach 1 is basicly a GT power wise it's 305 not much more than the gt and it weighs a lot more than the gt so it puts it in the same class....people getthe mach 1 for the shaker hood mainly.
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (wildman378)
My buddy has a 2003 Mustang SVT GT. He had to pull over because he couldn't see for my tire smoke. Those Mustang's are pigs. But what can you expect from 4.6 liters.
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (BIG JIM 54)
I cant believe the ignorance in this thread!!!! :cry :cry :cry :cry
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You will be fine. I haven't seen many of those new (non 03 cobras) break into the 13's either. LT-4 should be able to own with a good driver.
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You will be fine. I haven't seen many of those new (non 03 cobras) break into the 13's either. LT-4 should be able to own with a good driver.
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (comp94)
i think that that would be a good race, a mach one up against an lt-4
By the way......there were no 2002 Mach 1's.
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (cicch95)
:rolleyes: For the love of god! :rolleyes: A mach1 is simply a 2002 cobra. The powerplant is a n/a 4valve 4.6L. The diffrence is the driver. As an example: My bestfriend from highschool has a grabber blue stick Mach1.
The car had 3,000 mi on it when we took the car to FME day at milan dragway. (FME is ford motorsport enthusiast of whic I am a member) The best Eric could muster (eric is the owner of the car) was a 13.58 a friend of ours (his name is Reko) took the car out 15min after the 13.58run and posted a 13.34 run. The car was BONE STOCK!
The car currently has an x pipe, 4:10's and nitto drag radials now. Next thursday is FME day again. I'll post what it runs with the mods.
The car had 3,000 mi on it when we took the car to FME day at milan dragway. (FME is ford motorsport enthusiast of whic I am a member) The best Eric could muster (eric is the owner of the car) was a 13.58 a friend of ours (his name is Reko) took the car out 15min after the 13.58run and posted a 13.34 run. The car was BONE STOCK!
The car currently has an x pipe, 4:10's and nitto drag radials now. Next thursday is FME day again. I'll post what it runs with the mods.
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (VictorRussell'92)
I cant believe the ignorance in this thread!!!! :cry :cry :cry :cry
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You will be fine. I haven't seen many of those new (non 03 cobras) break into the 13's either. LT-4 should be able to own with a good driver.
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You will be fine. I haven't seen many of those new (non 03 cobras) break into the 13's either. LT-4 should be able to own with a good driver.
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (comp94)
A buddy of mine has a 99gt and roasted an 03 march 1. I've seen serveral of these cars run mid to high 13's. It really depends on the driver though. Your LT4 should not have a problem beating one. It all depends on the driver. I know of a guy w/ a drop top 86 completely stock consistantly running 13.6 w/ a 1.8 60ft on street tires. :smash:
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (wildman378)
I agree MrNuke my 95 vert fot 13.2 and it's bone stock a mach 1 is basicly a GT power wise it's 305 not much more than the gt and it weighs a lot more than the gt so it puts it in the same class....people getthe mach 1 for the shaker hood mainly.
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (FastEddieLT4)
Power-wise they are complely different than the DOHC Cobra. They share the same sb and heads, but the difference is the cams. In order to get better "off-the-line" torque, Ford put "truck" cams in the Mach. I've seen 100% bone-stock Mach dyno in the 270-280rwhp range, with 300-315tq at the wheels. With a capable driver, they run mid to low 13's.
With a few bolt-ons they are very capable of mid 12's. There is a Mach1 forum that can give you a better ideal of what real Mach1 drivers are running. Don't think for one second that they are a walk over.
However, stock for stock the LT4 wins
With a few bolt-ons they are very capable of mid 12's. There is a Mach1 forum that can give you a better ideal of what real Mach1 drivers are running. Don't think for one second that they are a walk over.
However, stock for stock the LT4 wins
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (TM-96CE)
low 13's? I see new ones as in 99-02 running 14's over and over again....NOW like I asid earlier in 03 they got a major power increase so before the increase of power there are basicly the same as a gt. If your talking about a 99-02 mach a lt1 should rip it up GOOD and it vs a lt4 is a joke.
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (wildman378)
If your talking about a 99-02 mach a lt1 should rip it up GOOD and it vs a lt4 is a joke.
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Re: 2003 Mustang Mach 1 vs. 1996 LT4 (cicch95)
If your talking about a 99-02 mach a lt1 should rip it up GOOD and it vs a lt4 is a joke.
I will say it again....there were NO 00-02 MACH 1's. Only 2003.
I will say it again....there were NO 00-02 MACH 1's. Only 2003.