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Old 04-15-2015, 07:59 PM
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Default 86 Indy Pace Car Decals: Placement help?

Do you have detailed dimensions for placement of these pace car decals?
Is there an assembly manual available for 1986 Corvettes that might have this?

I'm not comfortable trying to scale side view photo's to do this.

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Originally Posted by bschulze
Do you have detailed dimensions for placement of these pace car decals?
Is there an assembly manual available for 1986 Corvettes that might have this?

I'm not comfortable trying to scale side view photo's to do this.

Thanks,

Bob
I would contact user ID "Ray Quayle" - his '86 'vert I believe was an original purchase and I'm quite confident he would have retained any documentation.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ay-quayle.html

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I replied to Bob, thanks for the shout out.
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I replied to Bob, thanks for the shout out.
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Well done - you've never disappointed me. Did you ever land that '88 flywheel cover?
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Well done - you've never disappointed me. Did you ever land that '88 flywheel cover?
Still looking!
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OP ain't been back - looks like maybe a "hit and run".

It occurred to me also that he likely has some replica/reproduction decals and nothing short of measuring a known original install will likely help him. I believe he needs a "hands on" to a car that he feels is satisfactory.
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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
OP ain't been back - looks like maybe a "hit and run".

It occurred to me also that he likely has some replica/reproduction decals and nothing short of measuring a known original install will likely help him. I believe he needs a "hands on" to a car that he feels is satisfactory.
Highly likely.
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Default 86 pace car decals: I installed them

Originally Posted by Ray Quayle
Highly likely.
I could not find a 86 Pace car locally.

I bought the pace car decals from Phoenix Graphics. I was leery of using 30 year old original emblems. A set came to $234 with shipping.

I checked information in Volume 38, Number 2 Fall 2011 "Corvette Restorer (NCRS). "Decoding 1986 Corvette Convertible Pace Car Decals" by Peter Milhaltian.

I scaled the photos and ended up with the following locations:

(up and down) The bottom of the Indy badge is 1-3/8 inch above the upper door pocket edge (for the black bumper). (front to back) It is 2-47/64 inch from the door edge, measure inline with the bar above the 500 (to the decal edge). Be careful: There is a left and right side to the decals

The 'Official Pace car' decal is the same 1-3/8 inch above the upper pocket edge (from the bottom of the letters). It starts (or ends) on a line directly down from the forward edge of the door handle pocket.

The '70th Indianapolis...' etc. text line below the lower bumper pocket edge is 1-3/32 inch to the top of the letters.

I cut the decals with a scissors along the upper (or lower) edge of the letters and placed them on a masking tape guide line carefully measured from the bumper pocket edge.

Tape the letters in place along the edge forming a hinge to allow you to bend the letters back, remove the backing paper, spray with dish washing soap (1 tablespoon to 2 gallons of water), and fold them back in place. Use a plastic Bondo spreader to squeegee the soap out and to lay it down. After almost all the soap is squeezed out, remove the upper plastic cover by slowly pulling it at an 180 degree angle. Squeegee more. Remove the tape and you are done.

Before starting, I prepped the area with wax and grease remover and Windex, then Used Meguires no.7 for a clean surface. Windex again.

If my photo doesn't attach correctly I'll try again (a mysterious process)

Thanks,
Bob
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Originally Posted by bschulze
I could not find a 86 Pace car locally.

I bought the pace car decals from Phoenix Graphics. I was leery of using 30 year old original emblems. A set came to $234 with shipping.

I checked information in Volume 38, Number 2 Fall 2011 "Corvette Restorer (NCRS). "Decoding 1986 Corvette Convertible Pace Car Decals" by Peter Milhaltian.

I scaled the photos and ended up with the following locations:

(up and down) The bottom of the Indy badge is 1-3/8 inch above the upper door pocket edge (for the black bumper). (front to back) It is 2-47/64 inch from the door edge, measure inline with the bar above the 500 (to the decal edge). Be careful: There is a left and right side to the decals

The 'Official Pace car' decal is the same 1-3/8 inch above the upper pocket edge (from the bottom of the letters). It starts (or ends) on a line directly down from the forward edge of the door handle pocket.

The '70th Indianapolis...' etc. text line below the lower bumper pocket edge is 1-3/32 inch to the top of the letters.

I cut the decals with a scissors along the upper (or lower) edge of the letters and placed them on a masking tape guide line carefully measured from the bumper pocket edge.

Tape the letters in place along the edge forming a hinge to allow you to bend the letters back, remove the backing paper, spray with dish washing soap (1 tablespoon to 2 gallons of water), and fold them back in place. Use a plastic Bondo spreader to squeegee the soap out and to lay it down. After almost all the soap is squeezed out, remove the upper plastic cover by slowly pulling it at an 180 degree angle. Squeegee more. Remove the tape and you are done.

Before starting, I prepped the area with wax and grease remover and Windex, then Used Meguires no.7 for a clean surface. Windex again.

If my photo doesn't attach correctly I'll try again (a mysterious process)

Thanks,
Bob
Looks good
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Originally Posted by bschulze
I could not find a 86 Pace car locally.

Good to see you back and I'd say you did quite well. One day perhaps you'll stumble upon one and be able to compare.
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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
Good to see you back and I'd say you did quite well. One day perhaps you'll stumble upon one and be able to compare.
Oops: I posted 1 tablespoon dish soap to 2 gallons of water. Should be 1 tablespoon soap to 2 Quarts of water...

Sorry,
Bob
(as to the placement of the decals, I'm fairly confident that they <in the past> were placed all over the place, even with index points. I saw a photo where the placement start point is behind the door handle pocket. Depending on who at the dealership or the owner that installed them, I'm betting on some very varied results. Having worked at a dealership, I've seen and heard some crazy things happening. I'm happy with how it turned out.)
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The Decals look great, I also used the phoenix graphics on mine.
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My car was repainted 2months ago thanks randy and bob for the decal info got my decals from phoenix for got to measure before i took them off.
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If anyone is looking there is a OEM set for sale locally to me. I've already have them on my car or I'd be buying them.

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/h...357462403.html





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Im going to do some more searching i know a guy here has a yellow pace car i will see if i can get the measurments.

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