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Old 03-05-2011, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tpi 421 vette
Hi Brian, what size engine are you building, and what kind of rpm are you planning on turning?

I can relate on like to be different. That is the main reason I built a 450... not too many of them out there.
Jim,
You have jokes. I believe you would be the one and only.

I do the 408 with 30 psi for the same reason...
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I have good reason to leave many details out about this prototype 410 engine my late friend built.

The last running 410 engine he built and was installed into a Super Late Model Dirt Track Car running on Methonal Alcohol fuel.
A Horrific Racing Accident Occurred one Saturday night at my home town Dirt Track Speedway
A 5 year old boy died as a spectator almost 20 years ago.
LaSalle Speedway, lasalle, Illinois.
1/4 mile clay oval track.
Speeds over 90 miles per hour down the straight away is not uncommon in very high powered race machines at that track.
His similar but different parts combo 410 sbc was in that dirt track car when the fatal accident occurred.
The driver came out of turn 3 ready to come by the West direction grandstands full boar leading the race.
The throttle or gas stuck, mechanical linkage failure occurred.
In a flash the driver and car lost control.
He hit the wall at full speed.
The race car became airborne around 80 mph.
It went up and over the concrete barrier wall that is 7 feet high from the bottom of the racetrack and continued to clear the 30 foot high reinforced chain link fence above it.
Down below there was that 5 year old boy walking in the isle way likely getting back to his parents with a soda and a snack.
Happened so fast no one could do anything.
The race car came up and over that fence screaming full boar above 10K rpms.
The car landed upside down and immediately killed that little boy.
Crushed and lives forever changed for the worse.

My late friend never did forget that tragic accident.
He told me the tragic story a thousand times over with tears in his eyes and anger.
He often felt that his 410 engine combo was too powerfull.
Could not be handled even by professional drivers when things suddenly went wrong.
He was building this prototype 410 at the time that horrific race accident occurred.
A very big reason he never finished it and sat.
When he was dieing with cancer,
word got out throughout the midwest.

People offered him over $20 K cash. Suitcase style.

He refused the money.
He said only my close friend Brian R. is to have it.
No one else.

He knew I would be wise enough to respect it and its potential.

I have hid it.
Not even my wife knows its exact location.
If I die suddenly, only my 6 month old son will know where it is in due time.

If you wonder where I exactly get my funny ways......

My late buddy was an Italian and Sicilian.
They trust only a select few.

Actually they just pick one.

In my case, he chose me.

If you guys find it funny people dieing and a 5-year old boy,

Then continue cracking jokes behind the scenes and making a mockery out of me.

Because when you do so, you disrespect my late friend too.

He made me the individual I am today and the talented mechanic too.

Let the discussion be a revolutionary intake and induction system for a C4 for all of us to use and enjoy.

I will be silent here on C4 for next few days watching only.

I wont answer or comment back to posts or PM's.

Just my friend Steve here. The engineer.

Brian R.

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Old 03-05-2011, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AKS Racing
Jim,
You have jokes. I believe you would be the one and only.

I do the 408 with 30 psi for the same reason...
Hey Aaron, you probably have the only 408 with 30lbs on it
Old 06-18-2011, 03:31 AM
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Default 1st Generation Pro Flo

I am running a 1st generation Pro Flo setup on a crate 350 in my 81 Vette and it is awesome. Runs like a new car with instant throttle response, great power and it runs as good when it's cold as it does when it's warm. I would certainly say it's a great improvement over the stock electronic carb. On the other hand, I keep my son's 84 completely stock with the original crossfire. If it ain't broke...
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87 vette what sort of intake is on this 410 or no intake at all?

I would at least get it in the car and use a single plane to get this engine running and then at a later date try and figure out this eye candy fantastic induction system you are talking about using.

Most people would not attempt what you want because they will not have the funds to do it,especially if it doesn't work and end up with a pile of junk.

its great to have these ideas so please try with your hearts content and good luck.
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I would love to see pics of this 410 with the one off Brodix heads. Please share with us so we can see what you are so proud of. I know as proud as you are of this engine you will have pics to share.
Old 06-18-2011, 05:23 PM
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that red c4 up in the air is just a thing of beauty! LOL
Old 06-18-2011, 06:13 PM
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I have my induction system.
Complete now.

Its no E- Pro Flow.

I thought about sharing pics here on C4 in the past.
Too much abuse in the last 1 year here I have taken.

I have given much help too many.
Some do appreciate.
And they are welcome.

But show pics of my engine public...
Your answer is no today.

I don't give a F I C K.

And why should I .

Up yours too.

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That carp. on that tpi thing is just weard.. Yes Edelbrock makes duds sometimes ..The LT-1 to LT-4 heads Ect.. by Edelbrock was a not worth the money ...That's why we have a this great Forum... YEA...Yes hp parts are very hard to find for LT motors verybody gone LS crazzzzzy..Just make our own stuff...
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So I guess that is a no to the pics then. I just thought anyone with an engine like that would want to show it off. What crankshaft did he use in it?
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At least theres an alternative to the stock intake.

Sure it works just fine edelbrock makes decent intakes and does a lot of R&D before spitting out a piece.
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WTH is your problem?? You don't like it, leave!
Old 06-19-2011, 12:33 AM
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WOW I'm sorry if I hit a nerve I just thought your engine sounded awesome and asked to see pics of it. Not sure why you are threatening people you don't even know.
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This is the best thread ever. His poor English makes it even better.

My opinion on the original topic at hand is... If you have such an amazing one off custom 410cid engine with custom made heads... you wouldn't need to ask us what kind of intake to use. It would be my thought that you would have more than just that one said friend who can answer your question much better. Or maybe its all a big pile of BS.
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Originally Posted by jcro61
This is the best thread ever. His poor English makes it even better.

My opinion on the original topic at hand is... If you have such an amazing one off custom 410cid engine with custom made heads... you wouldn't need to ask us what kind of intake to use. It would be my thought that you would have more than just that one said friend who can answer your question much better. Or maybe its all a big pile of BS.
sums it up perfectly.
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Originally Posted by jcro61
This is the best thread ever. His poor English makes it even better.

My opinion on the original topic at hand is... If you have such an amazing one off custom 410cid engine with custom made heads... you wouldn't need to ask us what kind of intake to use. It would be my thought that you would have more than just that one said friend who can answer your question much better. Or maybe its all a big pile of BS.
Here we go again, it always seems that persons that have a little understanding of what really goes into a class engine. I am sure you have seen those engine that cost $30,000 or more in the mag. or on the internet, do you really believe that you can get all the specs on what is inside that engine. Yes if you buy it, you get the build sheet.(List of parts, that does tell the details) There is so much more to those engines than you could think about. Now when switching that type of engine to run in the corvette with hood clearance issues. The intake selection is very critical to the operating range and power out of a engine.
Now if he wants to keep secrets, then it is his right. The proof will be in the dyno and the 1/4 mile. Alot can be said about an engine but, the proof is how it performs is what is important to a drag racer, and since he is a drag racer.
Below is an engine that I would love to know all the specs on, I would to try and create in my garage and save plenty of money.
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=293885

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Old 06-19-2011, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by yedister
Here we go again, it always seems that persons that have a little understanding of what really goes into a class engine. I am sure you have seen those engine that cost $30,000 or more in the mag. or on the internet, do you really believe that you can get all the specs on what is inside that engine. Yes if you buy it, you get the build sheet.(List of parts, that does tell the details) There is so much more to those engines than you could think about. Now when switching that type of engine to run in the corvette with hood clearance issues. The intake selection is very critical to the operating range and power out of a engine.
Now if he wants to keep secrets, then it is his right. The proof will be in the dyno and the 1/4 mile. Alot can be said about an engine but, the proof is how it performs is what is important to a drag racer, and since he is a drag racer.
Below is an engine that I would love to know all the specs on, I would to try and create in my garage and save plenty of money.
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=293885
If you are inferring that I do not know what goes into building a world class engine than you should give yourself a pat on the back because you are correct.

My point was that I personally think he is just being a PITA. He asked a question. He got some answers. Yet he goes on and on.
Is it his right to keep his engine to himself. Obviously. For us to even have to state this is ridiculous and redundant if you ask me.

However, all these posts about fighting and dead kids and what not. Is all this really necessary? I am not trying to insult the guy about his dead friend. But all this talk about this guy, and how the engine is so powerful and it killed a kid. I mean come on, seriously, what does that have to do with intake manifold selection?

I mean, seriously... come on
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Personally Id love to see pics and some specs of this motor.

Maybe not bashing on him so much he just might?

everyone has a different posting style.

CFI-EFI comes to mind god rest his soul but people are what they are.
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Personally Id love to see pics and some specs of this motor.

Maybe not bashing on him so much he just might?

everyone has a different posting style.

CFI-EFI comes to mind god rest his soul but people are what they are.
Hey Ron.

I am back.

Scolded for the 4th time in 1 year.

Yeah,
Tell every one its really just a 1971 Chevy 307 with a 2bbl carb.

LOL

I have no problems cutting a hole in the hood of my 87 Vert to get an induction system to fit.

Neither did my late bud on any of his other Vettes of the past & biggirl.



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