Super Charger Vs Turbo?
01-01-2011, 09:40 PM
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Melting Slicks
Usually the price's are about the same... Turbo possibly a bit cheaper.
Power and MPG go to the turbo...
now, let's talk about kit-availability and tech-support. The supercharger wins that catagory.
If you're keeping the internals stock, and want an easy route the supercharger is the way to go. The difference in power gains/loses with a stock internal engine is minimal.
if you're tech-savvy, can do your own tuning, can do your own fab work- go turbo.
Power and MPG go to the turbo...
now, let's talk about kit-availability and tech-support. The supercharger wins that catagory.
If you're keeping the internals stock, and want an easy route the supercharger is the way to go. The difference in power gains/loses with a stock internal engine is minimal.
if you're tech-savvy, can do your own tuning, can do your own fab work- go turbo.
01-02-2011, 12:08 PM
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I have a complete supercharger kit that i would like to sell. It is a Vortech JT-trim head unit and ASP 8 rib pulley setup all brackets and misc parts send pm if you are intrested.
01-04-2011, 11:22 AM
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The most powerful C4 cars I know of, from regular posting members, are:
(guys correct me if im wrong)
AKSRacing: 900? rwhp - centrifugal supercharged on a l98 mind you
lcvette: 880 rwhp on e85- turbocharged
So in terms of ultimate power, one is not necessarily better than the other. Unless you have crazy power ideas (> 1000 rwhp)
There was a 'Kingvet' or something like that that made 1200 rwhp turbocharged. Which is
Anyone here bashing the supercharger, because of belt slip, is not running a dedicated 8 rib drive. You need this to make an S/C work on an LT1. The procharger corvette lt1 kits dont incluyde this, they are a single belt setup (same belt that drives the SC also has to drive your accessories. Belt slip at the crank pulley results in lost boost).
Centrifugal S/C advantage:
cooler air, less fab work, more tech support
turbocharger advantage:
no parastitic loss for drivng the pulley
Also dont forget, a centrifugal supercharger is like a belt-driven turbocharger. its not a roots-type. So you dont have the instant tire-stomping torque down low with a centrifugal like you do with a roots-type. However thats a good thing if all it will do is spin the tires.
(guys correct me if im wrong)
AKSRacing: 900? rwhp - centrifugal supercharged on a l98 mind you
lcvette: 880 rwhp on e85- turbocharged
So in terms of ultimate power, one is not necessarily better than the other. Unless you have crazy power ideas (> 1000 rwhp)
There was a 'Kingvet' or something like that that made 1200 rwhp turbocharged. Which is
Anyone here bashing the supercharger, because of belt slip, is not running a dedicated 8 rib drive. You need this to make an S/C work on an LT1. The procharger corvette lt1 kits dont incluyde this, they are a single belt setup (same belt that drives the SC also has to drive your accessories. Belt slip at the crank pulley results in lost boost).
Centrifugal S/C advantage:
cooler air, less fab work, more tech support
turbocharger advantage:
no parastitic loss for drivng the pulley
Also dont forget, a centrifugal supercharger is like a belt-driven turbocharger. its not a roots-type. So you dont have the instant tire-stomping torque down low with a centrifugal like you do with a roots-type. However thats a good thing if all it will do is spin the tires.
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01-05-2011, 12:52 PM
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blown 96 question
been away for quite a while, but the spark is rekindling....your system you have for sale....can it be adapted to work on a 85? any pictures please?
01-05-2011, 03:46 PM
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Hi ! All things being equal U can always make more power with a turbo - just simple physics !!! However simple physics is not always your best choice depending upon your application and usage. Street light to streetlight racing I'll take the belt driven "device".
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01-05-2011, 05:04 PM
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Chris - unless U or a buddy are fabricators a turbo is not a good choice. Additionally there are many issues with a turbo on a C4 platform that are not easily solved by a novice. No doubt a turbo on a C4 like any other vehicle can be awesome: but a turbo by a beginner ... well... ! LOL As long as you LOVE experimenting go the turbo route. But if your goal is to bolt on some serious HP then buy a centifugal kit from ME !
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01-13-2011, 05:35 PM
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01-13-2011, 05:36 PM
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01-14-2011, 01:34 AM
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How much ?
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01-23-2011, 05:10 PM
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i have not had a turbo'd car but did have a S/C z06 that i did my self, the kit was from a great forum vendor. Every thing worked great and tech support was outstanding and i could not ask for more. I just never liked dealing with a belt, You change it one time and you will start to have second thoughts. as with anything what is the belt made of? how long do you think it will last with that much pressure on it? also these are not cogged but ribbed belts. My review was this
performance-everything i wanted
cost-cheaper than turbo
drivability-smooth power and just keep on building
install-easy weekend project (had more issues with the wideband 02 sensor)
maintaince-good I hated to mess with that damn belt
rebuy-not now i would take my next project with all motor or turbo's.
--if an when you buy, buy from one of our vendors mine bent over backwards to help me (A&A)
also i ran the S/C for 2.5 years and it was not my daily driver. hope this helps you.
performance-everything i wanted
cost-cheaper than turbo
drivability-smooth power and just keep on building
install-easy weekend project (had more issues with the wideband 02 sensor)
maintaince-good I hated to mess with that damn belt
rebuy-not now i would take my next project with all motor or turbo's.
--if an when you buy, buy from one of our vendors mine bent over backwards to help me (A&A)
also i ran the S/C for 2.5 years and it was not my daily driver. hope this helps you.
