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Old 11-26-2010, 05:31 PM
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I searched the archives and didn't find what I am looking for in regards to should I or should I not remove the frisbie. I am half way through changing cam, heads, and intake system and saw the frisbie sitting there and thought I should ask for info regarding the removal.

A quick reply would be greatly appreciated as I will be at that stage of the rebuild this evening.

Thanks!

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Old 11-26-2010, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by stevie1dr
saw the frisbie sitting there and thought I should ask for info regarding the removal.
Personal choice.
Most have deleted with no ill effects
Makes working on the front of the engine easier
Old 11-26-2010, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by vetteoz
Personal choice.
Most have deleted with no ill effects
Makes working on the front of the engine easier
100 %
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It can't hurt to try the frisbee delete. It's there to add rotational inertia so A/C engagement doesn't bog/stumble the motor. From a performance perspective, people usually want their rotational weight reduced so that it spins up to speed as quickly as possible.

For a street motor, the frisbee represents a relatively small portion of what's being turning in the whole drivetrain so the results won't be signficant, but might be noticable in track times.

Try it. If you A/C engages w/o issue, leave it off. I consider that increasing your performance (via cam, heads, and/or CI increase) will help prevent A/C engagement problems anyway.
Old 11-26-2010, 07:54 PM
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I never understood the concept of adding a 5 pound plate on the water pump eliminating vibration due to the ac etc....perhaps it's a GM band aid??
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I removed it 10 years ago, and haven't had any type of problems.
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Originally Posted by vetteoz
Personal choice.
Most have deleted with no ill effects
Makes working on the front of the engine easier
i agree get rid of it,, and then maybe the air conditioning too
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Originally Posted by korvette4u
then maybe the air conditioning too
Air pump as well if AC gone
Courtesy of Mseven who spends way too much time keeping his engine clean



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Originally Posted by vetteoz
SWEET!!
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I removed mine a few years ago and have no issues.
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Originally Posted by vetteoz
Air pump as well if AC gone


All I can say is "WOW" That is one sweet looking motor!!!
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I took the frisbee off and put a new belt on. The next day the compressor started slinging oil on the hood.
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the only negative that i noticed was under acceleration you will notice more vibration "if" your a/c is on at that time........

pluses. who knows 5 chp?
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
I took the frisbee off and put a new belt on. The next day the compressor started slinging oil on the hood.
maybe something u did wrong....
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Thanks guys, for the answers. I decided to remove it. Unfortunately, living in Miami makes it necessary to keep the AC, so I won't be removing it. I have already dumped all the smog crap and run w/o cats. No smog inspections here, thankfully.

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Originally Posted by Tom 35th anniversary
All I can say is "WOW" That is one sweet looking motor!!!
I think it belongs to MSeven. But, I could be wrong.

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Originally Posted by GREGGPENN
I think it belongs to MSeven. But, I could be wrong.
396 also IIRC

The first time I noticed the Frisbee was when it interfered with the camber brace I was installing.
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Originally Posted by 88BlackZ-51
maybe something u did wrong....
Maybe I didn't do anything wrong since it isn't complicated to replace a belt and remove the frisbee. The front compressor seal that leaks is inside the compressor, nothing to mess up with that on the outside. The Nippo compressors front seal leaking is a known problem with these compressors. I also noticed a vibration when turning the A/C on.

Also, mine doesn't have extra compressor bracket bracing that other years have. I've just got the one long brace on the side. Other years have I believe 3 compressor bracket braces.
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Originally Posted by GREGGPENN
I think it belongs to MSeven.

Mine's not so pretty


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