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Old 01-26-2009, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by twotonethunder
what are the 113 heads?
113 heads are the alloy heads introduced in the 1988 vette, also known as D Port heads.
Old 01-26-2009, 11:08 AM
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Isn't that like saying I want to go fast but I really dont?

i'm jk good luck !
Old 01-26-2009, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JD'S WHITE 93
You can go 13s with a heavily ported manifold, headers and a good converter. CFI EFI or TOM400CI both know quite a bit about the crossfire cars. I THINK CFI EFI is on a temporary vacation, shame really as he knows alot about these cars.
Port the bejeezus out of your stock intake. When you think you're done, take a day off, and when you come back, approach it like you never ported it in the first place...and port it again, way more. The more you port it, the faster your car will go, hands down.

Either a cam or converter will help a lot, w/out hurting anything. A cam is so cheap, I recommend it.

Follow that with "tuning" (whether you do that mechanically or via ECM programing) and attention to detail. That and good driving will put you in the 13's easily w/no power adders and a stock looking, stock driving car.

My car ran low 13's on a junkyard 400 long block, $89 Summit cam, Edelbrock "headers" and heavily ported CFI intake. CFI-EFI's car can run high 13's on a stock long block (w/160k miles), and a ported intake, converter, cat back...and tuning IIRC.

In short, you should be able to hit 13's for under $1000.00 if you're somewhat mechanically inclined.
Old 01-26-2009, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TA
Check with CFI-EFI. I believe his 84 is well into the 13s with stock heads/cam
He is on ..err.."Vacation" if ya know what I mean.
Old 01-26-2009, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Redeasysport
He is on ..err.."Vacation" if ya know what I mean.

I guess I coulda figured that
Old 01-26-2009, 05:27 PM
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He will be on, I just sent him a link to this thread... unless he is still on vacation

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Old 01-26-2009, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
Port the bejeezus out of your stock intake.
Tom, Do you have any pictures? Wisdom in SoCal, from guys who should know, is to swap manifolds.

I want to run the CF on a 383, going in my old truck. All of the driveline & suspension will be Corvette.
Old 01-26-2009, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by whalepirot
Tom, Do you have any pictures?
I ahve some at work. I'll post them tomorrow.



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Wisdom in SoCal, from guys who should know, is to swap manifolds.
To what? Depending on the goals for your truck, and the rest of your combo (cam, heads and exhaust) I can tell you if I agree w/that advice.
Old 01-26-2009, 11:08 PM
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thanks for all the imput guys and the support


i plan on taking the car down milan dragway a couple times in completely stock form to see what im starting with

and for each thing i do to the car i will run it at a test and tune and post the results so others with the crossfire will have a idea of what mods will get there car to the level they want


by the way whats the fastest stock block crossfire injection car run anyway???

guess that might be something to shoot for?
Old 01-26-2009, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by twotonethunder

i plan on taking the car down milan dragway a couple times in completely stock form to see what im starting with

and for each thing i do to the car i will run it at a test and tune and post the results so others with the crossfire will have a idea of what mods will get there car to the level they want
Thats the way to do it. I was going to document each time I hit the dyno, but that never happened!

The only thing that I've ever recorded was the hp gain I got putting on the Xram.... which was 36rwhp

Originally Posted by twotonethunder
by the way whats the fastest stock block crossfire injection car run anyway???

guess that might be something to shoot for?
I believe the stock form CFI ran somewhere's high 14's- low 15's

So with very little money ( a grand or so like Tom says) you can bring yourself into the 13's... not a bad investment if you ask me
Old 01-27-2009, 12:09 AM
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i was meaning more along the line of fastest crossfire

whether is turbo, supercharged n/a or nitrous injected i wonder whats the fastest vette out there with a cfi manifold ontop of it
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
I have some at work. I'll post them tomorrow.
Cool. thanks.

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To what? Depending on the goals for your truck, and the rest of your combo (cam, heads and exhaust) I can tell you if I agree w/that advice.
I have a long way to go with the frame-up. My plan is to go with a carb first, then maybe swap in the old X-fire with an updated ECM.

I want economy from the truck, so the cam will be near stock. The X-fire made decent torque and it won't need to rev too high. I already have enlarged TBs and have the manifold stored.

I TPI'd my '84 to a SD system and it is nasteeeeeeeeeeeee.
Old 01-27-2009, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by twotonethunder
i was meaning more along the line of fastest crossfire

whether is turbo, supercharged n/a or nitrous injected i wonder whats the fastest 'Vette out there with a CFI manifold on top of it
I'm not sure. Joby ran 12's a/a supercharger (pictured earlier in this thread). There is some one else (can't remember the name) has gone 12's w/a 383 through a CFI intake, and Dominic, I believe ran 12's w/a extrude honed, stock intake.

As for a genuine stock long block'ed CFI car, I don't know that either. I'm pretty certain that if that was you're ultimate goal, you could probably hit low 13's, stock long block, stock (ported) intake.
Old 01-27-2009, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by whalepirot
Cool. thanks.

I have a long way to go with the frame-up. My plan is to go with a carb first, then maybe swap in the old X-fire with an updated ECM.

I want economy from the truck, so the cam will be near stock. The X-fire made decent torque and it won't need to rev too high. I already have enlarged TBs and have the manifold stored.

I TPI'd my '84 to a SD system and it is nasteeeeeeeeeeeee.
Well, I didn't go to work today. My back is out so I had to call in sick. I'll try again w/the pics tomorrow.

If you're using a stock cam, the ported intake will be more than sufficient.
Old 01-27-2009, 06:08 PM
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Dom ran a 13.3 and ben73 is the record holder @ 12.4 with a XRam'd 383. Mine has a best of 12.95 with a XRam. We are still working on the Renegade manifold but based on the mph increase and lack of traction it should run 12.5 all day long. Just waiting for the weather to warm up a tad. Test n Tune nights on a cold track aren't the best.
Old 01-28-2009, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by elkabong
Dom ran a 13.3 and ben73 is the record holder @ 12.4 with a XRam'd 383. Mine has a best of 12.95 with a XRam. We are still working on the Renegade manifold but based on the mph increase and lack of traction it should run 12.5 all day long. Just waiting for the weather to warm up a tad. Test n Tune nights on a cold track aren't the best.
whats the scoop on the renegade manifold i sent a email to them asking when a release date and cost would be announced and havent heard back from dynamic crossfire...


if you know let me know hahah
Old 01-28-2009, 09:35 AM
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twotonethunder - you have a pm.
Spread the good news to the rest of us. How fast will an 84 vette go with this intake and nothing else? How fast with cam and heads?

Crossfires need a performance package, please help. I don't want to start porting if I don't have to.
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Go with a Comp cam 280 xfi flat tappet,I went with the 268 xfi seems a little tame.The cam is made for computer controled engines.

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Old 01-29-2009, 08:31 PM
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Spread the good news to the rest of us. How fast will an 84 vette go with this intake and nothing else? How fast with cam and heads?

Crossfires need a performance package, please help. I don't want to start porting if I don't have to.
Our little company is not an advertiser on this board and I have a tendency not to post stuff about what we do but.....

http://www.crossfireinjection.net/DCS%20News.html

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