72Warbonnet

So...at the risk of being referred to the "search" link (which I've done)...

Can anyone comment on Keisler Installation with engine in, vs. engine out? Obviously, would prefer the latter...

Planning a 4+3 to TK-500 swap in an '86.

Also, if engine comes out -- should it come out with tranny attached?

Thanks!

LD85

Does not matter, it is a straight boltup

I have never taken the engine out with the tranny on, I always leave my hood on and I don't think I cold get the engine out if the tranny was still on.

I am taking mine out in a week or two and I will unbolt the bell housing

TKO 600 Install
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...tall-pics.html

midyearvette

i am un familiar with the 6 4 install but i can tell you from experience, on a c2 big block car it is much easier to remove the hood, front mount bolts and fan assy, along with all the other pieces keisler recommends. then hook up a cherry picker and simply move the engine forward just a few inches. you dont even have to un hook heater hoses. ..good luck

Iroc57

This is not a C2

There is no reason to go through the hassle of moving the motor, just get it high enough to work comfortably.

ray1979

i just did this in my 84. Trans goes in no problem. Very nice kit. No need to remove the engine.

0GENE-KEISLER SALES

Like with all of our kits No engine removal necessary.

This is an easy install. Just follow the directions and go against the Man code

Demonic85

Engine and trans cant go out together in a C4 without removing a lot of stuff in front of the engine. Drop the trans out the bottom

Keisler Automotive

72Warbonnet,

Thanks for asking about these details. The C4's removable torque arm design eliminates any need for engine removal. In fact, unlike others in the market, NONE of our kits require engine removal. Here are a few other points worth mentioning:

1. On ALL Keisler Corvette kits, the shifter is located EXACTLY in the correct location with no "dog legs". Dog legging the shifter stub changes the shifting geometry. It also magnifies any "slop" in the shifter mechanism.

2. On ALL Keisler Corvette kits, the shifter is QUICK RELEASE without breaking the transmission sealing (you don't have to worry about taking the responsibility on your transmission leaking). Removing the shifter tower makes the install of the transmission MUCH easier. In fact, the transmission can't be installed on manual equipped C1/C2 and most C3 cars without removal of the shifter.

3. All Keisler PerfectFit shifters have nearly zero freeplay while in gear. We have seen others with 1/2inch per gear, and this is not uncommon - many others have reported the same to us.

4. All Keisler PerfectFit shifters produced since late 2006 have changed carbon graphite impregnated bushing with quick release linkage. This eliminated the older design with roll pin. So the install is really easy and quick. No reports of failures, rattling, buzzing, etc with the new design and more than a couple thousand out there.

IF the engine is ALREADY out of the car, you can install the trans to the engine and replace the powertrain as one chunk. That would be the only reason to install the trans w/ engine.

There's always more than one way to 'skin a cat' but our manual has the method that is the established norm, and requires the least amount of disturbance to anything else.

We look forward to having you in the Keisler Club!