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Old 06-09-2008, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianCunningham
Heim links are the way to go

The various vendors have them.



I'm going to be upgrading my entire rear suspension to Heim links.
A benefit for street driving or just the track?
Old 06-09-2008, 06:31 PM
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how much was that energy suspension kit?
Old 06-09-2008, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 95wht6spd
A benefit for street driving or just the track?
I'm thinking it is designed more for track use than daily, and probably needs all the other peices of the suspension puzzle to make it worth that type of investment (ie, 30mm+ sway bars, special spring or coil overs, ect..). Nice pieces but I'm not ready to move up to that level of suspension at this point!

Originally Posted by kowalski340
how much was that energy suspension kit?

ENS-3-18122G HYPERFLEX KIT 84-95 CORVETTE A Shipped on 05/15/08 $179.95

Through Summit

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Old 06-09-2008, 06:56 PM
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sway bar bushings sold seperately.
Old 06-09-2008, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by racebum
sway bar bushings sold seperately.
Yep, bought them too, but there on back order!

ENS-3-5151G STABILIZER BAR BUSHINGS Expected Arrival 06/25/08 $28.99

ENS-3-5154G STABILIZER BAR BUSHINGS Expected Arrival 06/25/08 $23.69

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Old 06-09-2008, 08:09 PM
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Great pics! Really informative. Good luck in the future!
Old 06-09-2008, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackHarleyMan
Where can I get that type of spray from and how does it come? In a spray can, or does it require a paint gun and air?

Noland
Try Duplicolor Hi temp Cast coat colors. Autozone sells it. A wire brush on the end of a drill can get close to the same results though.

http://www.duplicolor.com/products/engine.html

Old 06-09-2008, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackHarleyMan
Well today I went to pull the front spring out of the car. Not a hard job, but I do understand why it's so important to get the car high off of the ground. If the car isn't high enough, the curvature of that spring will leave you stranded.
Tip for spring removal and install.....

Raise one side of the car higher than the other. Pull the spring out via the high side. By doing so, you don't need to jack it up to any silly or (if you don't have proper jackstands) dangerous heights

Looking good
Old 06-09-2008, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by carolinedelussey
Great pics! Really informative. Good luck in the future!
Thanks, I'll keep going here as long as they let me!

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Try Duplicolor Hi temp Cast coat colors. Autozone sells it. A wire brush on the end of a drill can get close to the same results though.

http://www.duplicolor.com/products/engine.html

Thanks for the info, I have the wire wheel, just need to get the paint!

Originally Posted by 96GS#007
Tip for spring removal and install.....

Raise one side of the car higher than the other. Pull the spring out via the high side. By doing so, you don't need to jack it up to any silly or (if you don't have proper jackstands) dangerous heights

Looking good

I agree and if I hadn't had to already drop the tranny to pull the motor I would have taken that route. But given where I was with this build and how much work I wanted to do, it was a no-brainer and I had it high enough to easily take the spring out! Thanks for the vote!

Noland
Old 06-09-2008, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackHarleyMan
Thanks, I'll keep going here as long as they let me!

Thanks for the info, I have the wire wheel, just need to get the paint!

Noland
Yea the wire wheel would be a great way to prep the wells for any sort of coating. I think the one used in the pic I posted is a rubber undercoating available in a spray-can at most autoparts stores. I think it gives it a texture and quality unlike a regular paint. To me, the rubber just looks more up to wear and tear from road debris as it is used underneath the car and not as much is painted underneath there (at least on mine). Just my 2 cents.

(Sigh) If only we had more mechanics that treated our cars as well as we do....Don't get me wrong - they are out there, just far and few.

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Old 06-10-2008, 07:31 AM
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Check your lower ball joints before you press them in. I have been reading a lot about Oversize ball joints. It seems MOOG are the only ones you don't hear complaints about.?
Old 06-10-2008, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackHarleyMan

Thanks for the info, I have the wire wheel, just need to get the paint!
Originally Posted by janarvae
Yea the wire wheel would be a great way to prep the wells for any sort of coating. I think the one used in the pic I posted is a rubber undercoating available in a spray-can at most autoparts stores. I think it gives it a texture and quality unlike a regular paint. To me, the rubber just looks more up to wear and tear from road debris as it is used underneath the car and not as much is painted underneath there (at least on mine). Just my 2 cents.

(Sigh) If only we had more mechanics that treated our cars as well as we do....Don't get me wrong - they are out there, just far and few.

Jonathan
Oh.. Nevermind about the paint. I thought he was referring to the calipers.
Old 06-14-2008, 08:44 AM
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Default Removing the Upper A-arm Ball Joints

With help from Rob (BlueWasp), we went to tackle the removal and replacement of the front A-arm upper and lower balljoints and bushings. When Rob informed me that we probably wouldn't get through both sets during the night, I thought he was crazy. LITTLE did I know how Crazy I was. I thought that there was no WAY, with all well setup shop that he has in his house, that it take long to pop the old out and drop in the new. Needless to say, this job is ALOT harder than I would have ever imagined. Either way, here it goes!

Here's the Upper A-arm before we started the removal of the upper balljoint.



This was followed by the grinding off of the rivet heads.



Next came a center punch mark and the drilling of holes in the center of the rivets down ~ 1/8".



After that step was completed, a air hammer was used in the rivit holes to knock the ball joint rivets loose from the top and unseated the rivets in the A-arm. We then took a screw and pressed the rivets out from the top of the A-arm.





And this is the completed piece.



I'll post the bushings and lowers later!

Noland
Old 06-14-2008, 08:58 AM
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Nice work & like the details. I've got the upper/lower A arm bushings to do & I'm going to wait for you to post pics & details of your project.
Old 06-14-2008, 10:38 AM
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Nice work! Looks like your friend has the same 20 ton Harbor Freight Press I bought to replace all my transmission bushings! How did it work for pressing out the balljoints?

Jonathan
Old 06-14-2008, 11:10 AM
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Thanks and I'll keep it going as long as I can!

Next came the nut removal..........The thing that shocked me was what it took to get these off. I had tried eariler to remove these with hand tools at home, then I figured it may require air. Neither assumption was right because it requires heat....and LOTS of it! Not only do you have to heat up the nut in order to remove it with a wrench, then you have to clean off all of the dark red glue-gunk which can only be done when it's hot and bubbling.









Once the dark red glue-gunk is hot and bubbles form on the outter edge of the nut, a nice size wrench can be then used to remove the nut.

Here's Rob in action





After the nuts have been removed, I used the vice and more heat to clean up the excess dark red glue-gunk off of the threads of the nuts.



We used the press to remove the bushings from the upper A-arms one side at at time. Just be careful not to use a press that's smaller than the hole in the A-arm. Rob used a socket and it pressed through like butter.

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Default Removing the Lower A-arm Ball Joints

Getting the lower balljoints out was much easier than the uppers. This is the stock lower balljoint and notice the small metal tab on the bottom of the joint. It needed to be removed with a grinder in order to get the press fitting to fit over the outside diameter of the balljoint for removal.



Here's a shot right after I VERY CAREFULLY grinded away the tab without damaging any of the Aluminum A-arm.



Once that was done, the rest was a walk in the park. Just setup the press, use a fitting that fits over the outer rim of the ball joint and press from the top down.





Once it was out, minor clean up and a nice coat of grease put us to a place where we could install the new balljoints. Here's the setup as we started the install.



And this is where we stopped



I have now realized that my experiance with the Corvette America Balljoints are just like other's on here that have seen these oversize bodies. SO, Now I have to figure out what I'm going to do, but the words MOOG seem to be sticking in my mind right now. I REALLY Wanted to save a little dough on this, but I'm just not willing to deal with anymore crappy part setbacks like this again! SO, LET ME STATE THIS, PLEASE AVOID THESE!



Oh yeah, and it's NOT Just their Lower Balljoints.............Let me show you what the Uppers looked like when I went to install them.



So I tried a different angle



SO, As you can see, these crappy balljoints just did NOT work in my setup........Maybe your results will vary but I'm calling them today and getting them straight AND My money back for this crap! NOW, since I was stuck and could not make anymore headway with the balljoints, I moved on to the bushings and pressed them out of the lower A-arms.





Well, that's where I'm at right now and I'll update more when I get it! Enjoy and a HUGE thanks to Rob (BlueWasp) for helping me out!

Noland

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Old 06-14-2008, 12:31 PM
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Great report. Thanks for the infos!
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Originally Posted by Sliding
Great report. Thanks for the infos!
Your VERY Welcome!
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Originally Posted by Sliding
Great report. Thanks for the infos!
Nice informative posts and good pics.



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