95 runing rough, tack needle bouncing???
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95 runing rough, tack needle bouncing???
My '95 has a very intermittent problem. The engine will begin to run very rough, has no power...and the tack needle will go a bit crazy during this. The first time this happend, I stopped and had it towed home..only for it to be fine for 1.5 weeks. Then it did it again and I was able to just keep driving it....was able to keep it running and it cleared-up and was fine again.
I have checked the obvious....loose battery connections, frame grounds...etc...but is this a sign of the ECM going out?
Suggestions???
Thanks,
LannyL81
I have checked the obvious....loose battery connections, frame grounds...etc...but is this a sign of the ECM going out?
Suggestions???
Thanks,
LannyL81
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On the '95, the tach signal is generated in the ECM from the Opti-Spark signals.
I would check the ECM for Opti-Spark trouble-codes.
Earlier LT1s generated the tach signal from the ignition coil through a tach filter instead.
Tom Piper
I would check the ECM for Opti-Spark trouble-codes.
Earlier LT1s generated the tach signal from the ignition coil through a tach filter instead.
Tom Piper
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I replaced the Opti Spark unit in Dec '06, along with plugs, wires, radiator, coolant, water pump.
I tried using my code reader to pull any codes (no Service Engine Soon light on)...but could not get the ECM to respond at all. I know the code reader is working as it works on my '95 Blazer.
Probably time to just pull the ECM and send it out for repair/rebuild.
Anything else I should check into before doing so????????????
I tried using my code reader to pull any codes (no Service Engine Soon light on)...but could not get the ECM to respond at all. I know the code reader is working as it works on my '95 Blazer.
Probably time to just pull the ECM and send it out for repair/rebuild.
Anything else I should check into before doing so????????????
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I replaced the Opti Spark unit in Dec '06, along with plugs, wires, radiator, coolant, water pump.
I tried using my code reader to pull any codes (no Service Engine Soon light on)...but could not get the ECM to respond at all. I know the code reader is working as it works on my '95 Blazer.
Probably time to just pull the ECM and send it out for repair/rebuild.
Anything else I should check into before doing so????????????
I tried using my code reader to pull any codes (no Service Engine Soon light on)...but could not get the ECM to respond at all. I know the code reader is working as it works on my '95 Blazer.
Probably time to just pull the ECM and send it out for repair/rebuild.
Anything else I should check into before doing so????????????
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Absolutely use the paperclip method for your '95 to read your PCM codes. It is very cool. Refer to this for an introduction:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...perclip+method
With your symptoms it seems the only things that could possibly be bad are your Opti's optical sensor, the PCM, or the wiring in between the two. If you car stops running altogether, I'll bet a quick check with a multimeter would reveal no AC signal going from the PCM to the ignition coil module, meaning the computer found the signal coming from the Opti to be unusable and was unable to forward it to the coil module, the injectors, and the tachometer. If the wiring checks out and the PCM hasn't shown signs of total failure your OptiSpark's optical sensor has probably failed.
In reality it's very hard to prove a PCM is 100% good since any number of little glitches could develop that only occur intermittently. If everything else about it seems to be working (digital gauges, communication to the CCM when using the paperclip method, etc.) you should probably replace the Opti. The only sure way to know it's the Opti is to hook up an oscilloscope to the optical sensor's output circuits and verify the signal from the opti is messed up.
My car did exactly what yours did and replacing the Opti fixed it. The wiring is easy enough to check out with a multimeter and the FSM's wiring diagrams. The FSM also has a very useful Optispark diagnosis chart.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...perclip+method
With your symptoms it seems the only things that could possibly be bad are your Opti's optical sensor, the PCM, or the wiring in between the two. If you car stops running altogether, I'll bet a quick check with a multimeter would reveal no AC signal going from the PCM to the ignition coil module, meaning the computer found the signal coming from the Opti to be unusable and was unable to forward it to the coil module, the injectors, and the tachometer. If the wiring checks out and the PCM hasn't shown signs of total failure your OptiSpark's optical sensor has probably failed.
In reality it's very hard to prove a PCM is 100% good since any number of little glitches could develop that only occur intermittently. If everything else about it seems to be working (digital gauges, communication to the CCM when using the paperclip method, etc.) you should probably replace the Opti. The only sure way to know it's the Opti is to hook up an oscilloscope to the optical sensor's output circuits and verify the signal from the opti is messed up.
My car did exactly what yours did and replacing the Opti fixed it. The wiring is easy enough to check out with a multimeter and the FSM's wiring diagrams. The FSM also has a very useful Optispark diagnosis chart.
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Thanks so much for the info on getting the codes out. I will try this one afternoon this week and see what I get. Think I will also try this on my '96, just to see what I get.
Thanks again.
Lannyl81
Thanks again.
Lannyl81
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Paperclip will give you trouble codes for other computers onboard on a 96, but will not give you the engine codes. You have to use a code reader that reads OBD II to get these.