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Old 08-15-2005, 05:27 PM
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Default Cantan 7qt oil pan - proper oil level? (picture)

In the picture below I have 7 qts of oil poured into the pan. As you can see I have poured oil into the filter as well. Is this the ideal oil level? The reason I ask is because the stock dip stick is inaccurate with this pan.


http://www.knology.net/~eac/images/oilpan.jpg
Old 08-15-2005, 05:48 PM
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same question here...
Old 08-15-2005, 06:24 PM
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I have the same pan. The chick at Canton told me the 7 qts is total system capacity. She said in a new motor(mine was) put in 7 1/2 qts. After motor is run, and oil drained, fill with 7 qts. I did this and my dipstick was accurate. I did not fill the pan. Didn't think to do it or I would have.
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Originally Posted by Pete K
I have the same pan. The chick at Canton told me the 7 qts is total system capacity. She said in a new motor(mine was) put in 7 1/2 qts. After motor is run, and oil drained, fill with 7 qts. I did this and my dipstick was accurate. I did not fill the pan. Didn't think to do it or I would have.
It woulds seem that it could stand a 1/2 qt more. Still I would think that you would not want to fill it where that crank would be splashing in the oil.

It has been a few months but it seems that when I put in 7qts in the engine with that pan that the dip stick read low.
Old 08-15-2005, 07:23 PM
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Mine reads 1 quart low.......the add mark.....with 7 quarts, stock dip stick....................I can live with that, just tell anybody changing your oil or they'll over fill it....well some do run 8 quarts.
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Install the pan...level the car...pull the overflow bolt out...fill the engine with oil until it starts coming out of the overflow hole...wait until it stops and mark the dipstick and that will be your new full mark.

That's what I did and I've never had a problem.
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Originally Posted by Zix
Install the pan...level the car...pull the overflow bolt out...fill the engine with oil until it starts coming out of the overflow hole...wait until it stops and mark the dipstick and that will be your new full mark.

That's what I did and I've never had a problem.
That is a good idea. Anyhow, I updated the picture to include a 7.5 quart fill. I like the 7.5 fill.

http://www.knology.net/~eac/images/oilpan.jpg
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Originally Posted by ericcer
That is a good idea. Anyhow, I updated the picture to include a 7.5 quart fill. I like the 7.5 fill.

http://www.knology.net/~eac/images/oilpan.jpg
You want the oil below the windage tray, otherwise the crank picks up the oil.

The Canton windage tray is lower in the pan than the factory windage tray in the factory pan using the dipstick as the reference point. That's why, when filled as shown in your 7qt pic, the oil level will appear to be 1/2 qt low on the factory dipstick but is actually correct.

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Is the 7 qts including what is in the filter?
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Originally Posted by tjwong
Is the 7 qts including what is in the filter?
Yes
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
You want the oil below the windage tray, otherwise the crank picks up the oil.

The Canton windage tray is lower in the pan than the factory windage tray in the factory pan using the dipstick as the reference point. That's why, when filled as shown in your 7qt pic, the oil level will appear to be 1/2 qt low on the factory dipstick but is actually correct.
Exactly! When we tested it with water that turned out to be 6 qts. Then with the oversized filter we figured another qt. So, with 7 qts in her she reads about a quart low with the stock dipstick... which is your new full mark.

Mike
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Then trim about 3/4" off the top of your dipstick fill tube, and your dipstick will then read correct.

-Tom
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Originally Posted by tommelton
Then trim about 3/4" off the top of your dipstick fill tube, and your dipstick will then read correct.

-Tom
I like your thinking. A mini tubing cutter and zip...zip.
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Originally Posted by tommelton
Then trim about 3/4" off the top of your dipstick fill tube, and your dipstick will then read correct.

-Tom
Good idea and I wonder if you could get a longer dip stick that would work too.

I just checked and the top inch or so of the dip stick tube is a larger diameter so I guess cutting it off would not work.

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