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Old 04-12-2005, 11:54 AM
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Default How to Remove the drain/fill bolts on a 6sp?

I'd like to change the oil in my trans (94 6spd). There are two Hex type (allen bolts) and I can't seem ot find a allen to fit. The guy at the auto parts store said there is a tool but its a dealer item. I was wondering if any of you folk have come up with a way of removing this with out the tool. I was thinking about using a bolt with 2 nuts jamed down, so I can get a socket on it. I think it's 17mm.
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It's not a dealer item... What BS. You need to do one of two things: find a bolt with a 17mm head and lock a pair of nuts on it (cheap), or find a real hardware/tool shop. I bought mine from a place called Tacoma Screw. Be prepared to drop at least $20.
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It is not a dealer item, your plan for using a 17mm bolt will work fine, otherwise just find a real hardware supply store and they should a 17mm 1/2" drive allen socket. They are about $20.
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It is not a dealer item, your plan for using a 17mm bolt will work fine, otherwise just find a real hardware supply store and they should a 17mm 1/2" drive allen socket. They are about $20.
my auto parts store was able to special order me a 17mm allen wrench.
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I bought a 17mm allen wrench from Sears. I think it was $9.00.
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Autozone has a set with a 17mm hex 1/2" drive for $8. It works great. Remove the fill first so you're not stuck with an empty transmission if you can't get it out later.
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And get the car high in the air!!! You will need all the leverage you can to break those damned plugs free!!!
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I used the Sears 17mm hex key with a pipe for leverage. As mentioned by someone else, make sure you can get the fill plug out before you remove the drain plug.
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auto zone is the only place to go. get the sockets.
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Jimijoe, I had trouble with the transmission filler and drain plugs in my 1990 six-speed. I tried an Allen wrench (17mm) and a 17 mm hex socket. I used a breaker bar and a floor jack, and still got nothing accomplished. Finally, I took it to a Corvette repair shop in Richmond, Virginia, and they applied heat and removed the plugs.

I ordered new plugs because a previous owner had pretty much ruined the drain plug. -- Eric
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Originally Posted by Photomania
Jimijoe, I had trouble with the transmission filler and drain plugs in my 1990 six-speed. I tried an Allen wrench (17mm) and a 17 mm hex socket. I used a breaker bar and a floor jack, and still got nothing accomplished. Finally, I took it to a Corvette repair shop in Richmond, Virginia, and they applied heat and removed the plugs.

I ordered new plugs because a previous owner had pretty much ruined the drain plug. -- Eric
You will need a breaker bar and I used a plumbers torch to heat it up and they came right out.
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an air impact wrench also works well
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Hi All;

Thanks for the advise; I didn't realize the drain plugs would be that tight. I thought I read the torque spec was 25ft lbs, so I figured getting them out would be a breeze. I will definately purchase a 17mm Hex bit and NOT take a chance with a home made adapter. I'll also try a lil heat.

Thanks again
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I welded a 17mm nut on the end of a short 3/8" extension.
Looks trick and works perfectly.


PS The tightening torque is 25ft lbs, but it takes three times that to break them loose!!

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I'm sure some guys will disagree, but I put yellow (oil resistant) teflon tape on mine when I put it back together. I have done it without the tape & got leaks.

It'll mess up the tq spec but it won't leak. Use you judgement on the tightness.
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I picked up the 17mm allen and cut 2 inches off it and put it in a 17mm socket. Two seconds with the impact gun and all was well
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I ran my '91 for about ten miles before I attempted the plugs and they came right out. I used plumbers "pipe dope" when I replaced them because they have pipe type threads. Not one problem. The heat made the difference
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Woohoo! Score one for "search"! I can't get my fill plug off (thankfully I'm no longer dumb enough to pull the drain plug first, only to find I can't refill it) and was going to try heat from a plumbers torch. I was a bit worried that this might be a bad idea, but sounds like you all have had success! So wish me luck!
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Originally Posted by jimijoe
I'd like to change the oil in my trans (94 6spd). There are two Hex type (allen bolts) and I can't seem ot find a allen to fit. The guy at the auto parts store said there is a tool but its a dealer item. I was wondering if any of you folk have come up with a way of removing this with out the tool. I was thinking about using a bolt with 2 nuts jamed down, so I can get a socket on it. I think it's 17mm.
The first time I did mine I used a grade 8 17mm bolt and double nuts. I ended up welding the entire thing together because the nuts would slip no matter how much I jammed them together. Even after welding I broke the weld once...I'm not much of a welder.

My suggestion is the same as others have said. Get a proper 17mm allen socket because if they have never been out before they are hellish tight. Remove the fill plug first. When you re-install the plugs don't torque them to 25 lbs-ft (factory spec). I don't go over 15 to 20 lbs-ft which makes them come out much easier the next time. Don't worry about them coming out, after the first heat cycle they'll seize in there nice and snug.

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