Corvette Forum  


Go Back   Corvette Forum > C4 Corvettes, 1984 - 1996 > C4 Scan & Tune
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Register Vendors Buy a Vette Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ PhotosGarage

C4 Scan & Tune
C4 Corvette Performance Chips, ECM/PCM Modifications, Dyno Tuning, Fuel Management, Tuning Software

Corvette Store
 
 
C6 Parts & Accessories
C5 Parts & Accessories
Wheels & Tires
Sponsored Ads
 
 
Vendor Directory
 
Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-15-2006, 12:30 AM   #1
vette4cw
CF Member
 
Member Since: Dec 2003
Location: Flagstaff AZ
Default Power Surge after turning off key...

Getting a power surge AFTER I shut the key off on my '85 Vette. Dash lights go out and then back on AFTER the key is off. I pulled the [b]Guages fuse and the problem went away. This fuse powers a number of circuits including the MAF, EGR solenoid, etc.

This a short ?? Anyone have a suggested troubleshooting path ??
vette4cw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2006, 05:50 AM   #2
Casethecorvetteman
CF Senior Member
 
Casethecorvetteman's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2005
Location: just north of Brisbane Queensland, AUSTRALIA
Send a message via MSN to Casethecorvetteman Send a message via Yahoo to Casethecorvetteman Send a message via Skype™ to Casethecorvetteman
Default

Is there any chance it is related to the MAF burn off? I cant think of anything else that would be coming on after the engine is shut off.
Casethecorvetteman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2006, 12:07 PM   #3
vette4cw
CF Member
 
Member Since: Dec 2003
Location: Flagstaff AZ
Default

Do not believe so... I disconnected the MAF (obviously ran like crap), but still had the 'feedback' into the system.

Thanks for the thought...
vette4cw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2006, 11:39 PM   #4
Casethecorvetteman
CF Senior Member
 
Casethecorvetteman's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2005
Location: just north of Brisbane Queensland, AUSTRALIA
Send a message via MSN to Casethecorvetteman Send a message via Yahoo to Casethecorvetteman Send a message via Skype™ to Casethecorvetteman
Default

That doesnt mean a single thing mate. The MAF is not self powered, so unplugging it wont tell you anything. If the MAF is unplugged, this wont stop the burn off relay from coming on.
Casethecorvetteman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2006, 01:29 PM   #5
rick lambert
CF Senior Member
 
rick lambert's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2003
Location: seattle WA
Default

Good point case, how long are the lights staying on? because I think the burnoff is timed.
rick lambert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2006, 10:28 PM   #6
vette4cw
CF Member
 
Member Since: Dec 2003
Location: Flagstaff AZ
Default

Only staying on for a few seconds...
vette4cw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2006, 10:29 PM   #7
vette4cw
CF Member
 
Member Since: Dec 2003
Location: Flagstaff AZ
Default

This is the 165 Computer (86-89). Believe the burn-off relay is in the computer ??
vette4cw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2006, 10:53 PM   #8
Casethecorvetteman
CF Senior Member
 
Casethecorvetteman's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2005
Location: just north of Brisbane Queensland, AUSTRALIA
Send a message via MSN to Casethecorvetteman Send a message via Yahoo to Casethecorvetteman Send a message via Skype™ to Casethecorvetteman
Default

The command for the relay might be, but the relay itself is not in the computer.
Casethecorvetteman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2006, 11:05 AM   #9
vette4cw
CF Member
 
Member Since: Dec 2003
Location: Flagstaff AZ
Default

Hmmm.. the old system (870 computer) had a relay behind the passenger dash pad. Believe the 165 system that we upgraded to a number of years back did not use this relay.
vette4cw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2006, 11:05 AM   #10
vette4cw
CF Member
 
Member Since: Dec 2003
Location: Flagstaff AZ
Default

Hmmm.. the old system (870 computer) had a relay behind the passenger dash pad. Believe the 165 system that we upgraded to a number of years back did not use this relay.
vette4cw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2006, 11:25 AM   #11
Casethecorvetteman
CF Senior Member
 
Casethecorvetteman's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2005
Location: just north of Brisbane Queensland, AUSTRALIA
Send a message via MSN to Casethecorvetteman Send a message via Yahoo to Casethecorvetteman Send a message via Skype™ to Casethecorvetteman
Default

It didnt, it used a far cheaper relay that is under the bonnet.
Casethecorvetteman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2006, 01:47 PM   #12
vette4cw
CF Member
 
Member Since: Dec 2003
Location: Flagstaff AZ
Default

Will try to locate... thanks for your help
vette4cw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2006, 01:53 PM   #13
Casethecorvetteman
CF Senior Member
 
Casethecorvetteman's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2005
Location: just north of Brisbane Queensland, AUSTRALIA
Send a message via MSN to Casethecorvetteman Send a message via Yahoo to Casethecorvetteman Send a message via Skype™ to Casethecorvetteman
Default

Behind the battery i think it is, there is 2 of them that look the same, one is MAF power, one is MAF burn off, unplug them both and see if the problem still occurs. (the car will probably run very poorly with them unplugged)
Casethecorvetteman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2006, 05:40 PM   #14
vette4cw
CF Member
 
Member Since: Dec 2003
Location: Flagstaff AZ
Default

Will give it a go... thanks again for the assistance... how's the weather 'down-under?'
vette4cw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2006, 06:45 PM   #15
vette4cw
CF Member
 
Member Since: Dec 2003
Location: Flagstaff AZ
Default

Nope... did not resolve the issue...
vette4cw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2006, 10:25 PM   #16
Casethecorvetteman
CF Senior Member
 
Casethecorvetteman's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2005
Location: just north of Brisbane Queensland, AUSTRALIA
Send a message via MSN to Casethecorvetteman Send a message via Yahoo to Casethecorvetteman Send a message via Skype™ to Casethecorvetteman
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vette4cw
how's the weather 'down-under?'
The weather is bloody good here mate yeah, nice and clear, not too hot yet, no rain, Regular Australian weather
Casethecorvetteman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2006, 05:07 PM   #17
vette4cw
CF Member
 
Member Since: Dec 2003
Location: Flagstaff AZ
Default

When I pull the 'Gauges' fuse, the problem goes away... it must be something with that circuit. And yes, the MAF is on that one... along with the EGR and etc.
vette4cw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2006, 07:40 PM   #18
SunCr
CF Senior Member
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: San Diego, Ca
Default

I'd be more inclined to suspect the ignition switch, it's linkage (rod) to the key or a short to voltage on the output side of the switch. Gages fuse (along with several others including the Cluster Fuse) is powered up when the switch is in the Run, Bulb Test or Start Position. Off is off - no juice. I'd drop the column, remove the linkage and operate the switch manually to narrow it down. If it works right with the linkage or rod disconnected, you'll know it's something between the key and the switch (the switch probably just needs to be adjusted). If not, wriggling the wires around might reveal the intermittent. You want to pay attention to the Pink or output to the Gages Fuse, etc. If that doesn't reveal it, put your DVM on the Pink wire at the switch. Should be 0 volts with the key off. If it isn't, blowing it out with some compressed air and applying some electrical contact cleaner might fix it. Otherwise, replace the switch.
SunCr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2006, 01:13 PM   #19
vette4cw
CF Member
 
Member Since: Dec 2003
Location: Flagstaff AZ
Default

Purchased a new ignition switch a few weeks ago, assuming that this was the culprit... guess I need to go ahead and try your tests... make sense to me. Thanks for the input. Now if I could just find someone about a foot tall to get in there and change it !!!
vette4cw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2006, 03:35 PM   #20
SunCr
CF Senior Member
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: San Diego, Ca
Default

Dropping the column makes it a snap. Remove the hush panel and tilt lever. On some, the key has to be in the on position. Then two bolts in the carpeted part and ease it down.
SunCr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2006, 03:35 PM
 
Go Back   Corvette Forum > C4 Corvettes, 1984 - 1996 > C4 Scan & Tune
Reload this Page Power Surge after turning off key...
 
 
 
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Click for Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Current Technical Service Bulletins By Year kewlbrz C5 Tech 11 06-25-2002 06:32 PM
Battery completely dead mg62 C3 Tech/Performance 32 05-31-2002 01:57 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.1 PL1
Emails & Password Backup