Aardwolf

Were there any plastic lens headlights stock? I rarely use my headlights but don't want to delete them. They are heavy glass and I'd like them to be less weight. I'd be happy to trade, anyone interested?

vertrx7

I couldn't figure that out when i got my car. They had plastic lenses in them. What kind of beam pattern could that be in comparison to the weak ones from the sealed beam glass in the first place? Weight I guess I can understand especially if you don't use them, but if you use them, why wouldn't you want to put the E-codes?

Now, if you've got some Hella or Cibie e-codes you want to trade for those plastic things, I'm all over that

Aardwolf

They make a lot of light, not sure what bulb is in there though. I thought the glass lens made better light then the plastic?

vertrx7

Yes, I was not clear. I've never seen plastic lenses. Took me by surprise when I removed them for my Cibie's.

What I was trying to say is that I would be surprised if the plastic lenses made any better light than the sealed beam glass lenses. The whole sealed beam technology is 1940's stuff. Even with what they call halogen. Its still a sealed beam.

From what I've read, it seems to be that DOT wants the light to go up to overhead signs, diffusing the pattern coming out. The European lenses have a very sharp cutoff, the old Cibie Z beam is a typical example where the Z cut up sharply on the right to see stuff on the right side of the car (for all left hand drive cars). You can really see the cutoff when driving, even with the Hella lights.

if you're going down this road with the expensive e-codes, not the Hella DOT approved stuff, make sure you also buy some clear plastic to cover the lights against stones and rocks. Read more on Daniel Stern's website.

gmboileau

Does your lights have the words Guide Halogen in about 1/4 inch letters in the middle of the light?

Aardwolf

I will check tomorrow.

Banski

Aardwolf - I just swapped my headlights out of my 96, switched to Hella. I have a set of plastic lens halogen lights sitting on my workbench that I don't need. I believe they say "Wagner" on them. I suspect they came stock with the car and I believe you can change the bulbs. They don't have the "covers" that were mentioned by another poster. They both worked when I pulled them out of my car last month.

I'll be happy to give them to you if you would pay to pack and ship. Let me know if you are interested.

Aardwolf

Banski, that would be great! PM sent.

onedef92

Plastic headlights went into production with the '92 models.

Aardwolf

Thanks for the info, I'm always curious about that stuff.

Anyone need these glass lenses?

They say Halogen with a round symbol that looks like GE. They don't say Guide.

C4 King

If you still have these I'll buy them from you.