Notices
C4 General Discussion General C4 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech

ZR-1 or Z06?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-19-2004, 11:32 AM
  #1  
Nathan Plemons
Race Director
Thread Starter
 
Nathan Plemons's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2001
Posts: 14,165
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts

Default ZR-1 or Z06?

With all this talk about "upgrading" to a C5 I thought I'd just see how people compare the ZR-1 to the Z06. Raw horsepower wise the two are very close. The ZR-1 falls short in the handling department when compared to a Z06 though.

I'm not sure about the production numbers but it seems like the Z06 is a dime a dozen while the ZR-1 was almost impossible to get even when they were new.

Leave all the C4 vs C5 debate out of the equation. Ultimately which car will be remembered as the bigger legend? IMHO it's the ZR-1, no contest. Afterall it had a completely different powerplant while the LS6 is just a hopped up LS1. What do you think?
Old 07-19-2004, 11:35 AM
  #2  
1989redvette
Burning Brakes
 
1989redvette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2002
Location: Meadville PA
Posts: 1,193
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

i think the ZR1 ..it is a lot rarer or seems to be any how.. the LT5 is a very ahead of its time motor and is still a threat.. just my opinion
Old 07-19-2004, 11:45 AM
  #3  
LT1Vetteguy78
Drifting
 
LT1Vetteguy78's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2004
Location: Bristol CT
Posts: 1,536
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i gotta say the z06, just cause all the hype it gets from Motor Trend and the way they compare the Z06 to Exotics and Vipers....while i think the Zr-1 is the King of the Hill, times change and the z06 is the king of the mountain.....
Old 07-19-2004, 12:02 PM
  #4  
scorp508
Team Owner
 
scorp508's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2000
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 83,266
Received 41 Likes on 36 Posts

Default

The Z06 in my mind doesn't go far enough. The ZR1 honestly destroyed the competition out there during its time. The Z06 is a slightly hopped up C5 which yes does beat its competition, but doesn't pummel it into the ground. I think the C6 performance model that comes out is going to be the real deal to take the crown from the ZR1.
Old 07-19-2004, 12:07 PM
  #5  
rocco16
Race Director

 
rocco16's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2002
Location: SCMR Rat Pack'r Charter Member..Great Bend KS
Posts: 13,243
Received 176 Likes on 129 Posts

Default

Which would I rather have a ride in? ZR-1.
Which would I rather own? Z06.

Larry
Old 07-19-2004, 12:08 PM
  #6  
smokeyburnouts
Burning Brakes
 
smokeyburnouts's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2001
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 875
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by scorp508
The Z06 in my mind doesn't go far enough. The ZR1 honestly destroyed the competition out there during its time. The Z06 is a slightly hopped up C5 which yes does beat its competition, but doesn't pummel it into the ground. I think the C6 performance model that comes out is going to be the real deal to take the crown from the ZR1.
i agree somewhat. i think the ZR1 has more of a mystique to it, which is really cool. but people already, for the most part, consider the Z06 alot better car, so i bet the general public and even most vette enthusiests consider the Z06 king of the hill. i voted ZR1. for its time just an amazing car, the engine is so sweet. sure the z06 is a "better" overall race car, but i hate how the ZR1 is almost obsolete in most ppls eyes. it deserves much more credit.
Old 07-19-2004, 12:15 PM
  #7  
bogus
Team Owner
 
bogus's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2000
Location: San Pedro CA
Posts: 40,144
Received 32 Likes on 30 Posts

Default

The ZR1 may be more rare, but the Z06 is more accessable. The power is the same, but the Z06 is faster... better traction... better handling... better chassis.

Time will tell, but the Z06 is already eclipsing the ZR1.
Old 07-19-2004, 12:20 PM
  #8  
96 Collector Edition
Safety Car
 
96 Collector Edition's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2002
Location: Belle Chasse La
Posts: 4,806
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Old 07-19-2004, 12:35 PM
  #9  
Scoob
Team Owner
 
Scoob's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 1999
Location: Life's tough, wear a helmet.
Posts: 89,144
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

I currently have a '90 ZR1. I love it. It handles great, has tons of power, sounds incredible at wot, looks great, and will kick the snot out of 99% of the cars out there.

In a little more than 2 years I will have the opportunity to snag an '04 Z06 coming off lease.

I will answer the door.

Edit: As for which will go down in history, imho, the ZR1 is more historically significant in the Corvette story.
Old 07-19-2004, 12:36 PM
  #10  
Aaron71771
Le Mans Master
 
Aaron71771's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2000
Location: Traverse City MI
Posts: 6,349
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 14 Posts

Default

Once you've heard that LT5 scream at 7,000 RPMS at the top of 3rd and you are blasting thru 120mph like its nothing - you will never be the same.

The Z06 is a great corvette, the ZR-1 at 100+mph is a life changing expirence.
Old 07-19-2004, 12:54 PM
  #11  
90 Corvette ZR-1
Le Mans Master
 
90 Corvette ZR-1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2000
Location: pa
Posts: 8,277
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I have a friend who just bought a Z06 and hates it. He said he likes his ZR-1 more.
Old 07-19-2004, 12:58 PM
  #12  
ShawnZR-1
Race Director
 
ShawnZR-1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2001
Location: Canton GA
Posts: 12,736
Received 78 Likes on 31 Posts
Cruise-In III Veteran
Cruise-In IV Veteran
Cruise-In VI Veteran
St. Jude Donor '03-'05-'06-'10-'11-'12

Default

By the sheer number of books and articles written on the ZR-1, and the original owner of the title of "King of the Hill", I'd say it will live on in infamy. Hell, they are still comparing cars to the ZR-1 in magazines.

I must also point out that of all of the engines that GM has ever put into production, the LT5 is the only one that has been a Corvette exclusive.

That being said, I'll own a Z06 in the future, but it will be parked right next to my ZR-1!
Old 07-19-2004, 01:19 PM
  #13  
tempest
Burning Brakes
 
tempest's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2001
Location: walled lake MI
Posts: 1,238
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

in an apples to apples technical comparison, i would choose the Z-06.

when the ZR-1 came out, it was amazing for its time, but the base Corvettes then had such a handicap with emissions standards that it is not a wonder that a DOHC 4 valves/cyl will kick the power up 130 HP.

the Z-06 on the other hand, it managed to squeeze an extra 50 horses or so from the same engine configuration as the base, which was no slouch itself.

where the Z-06 really scores brownie points in my book is its attention to weight reduction. it's near 8 lbs/hp is absolutely world class.

however....still to me ZR-1 = "King of the Hill." that particular term, in my mind, is not a position to be won, but a nickname already used for the ZR-1. GM marketing or the car magazines just need to find another nickname for the Z-06.

Last edited by tempest; 07-19-2004 at 01:21 PM.
Old 07-19-2004, 01:19 PM
  #14  
FASTAZU
Race Director

 
FASTAZU's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2002
Location: Compound in the Grove, Ga.
Posts: 11,327
Received 910 Likes on 583 Posts
2020 C3 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2019 C4 of Year Finalist (performance mods)
2018 C4 of Year Finalist
2015 C4 of the Year Finalist
St. Jude Donor '16
2020 C3 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified

Default

Originally Posted by ShawnZR-1
I'll own a Z06 in the future, but it will be parked right next to my ZR-1!
The Z06 may be Quicker but not Faster than a ZR-1
Old 07-19-2004, 01:38 PM
  #15  
all4c4lt4
Le Mans Master
 
all4c4lt4's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2002
Location: Cincinnati Oh
Posts: 6,097
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

We'll see in 14 if anyone is comparing the Z06 to the then present day corvette. With the base model C6 boasting performance numbers similar to a current Z06, I highly doubt a the Z06 will have the history and mystique of the ZR-1. Will future production corvettes out-perform the ZR-1? Certainly. But the ZR-1 has such a great history, and was such a significant step forward for the corvette (and GM) in performance for the sports car world, it will always be the King of the Hill.
Old 07-19-2004, 02:10 PM
  #16  
Mikez40
Melting Slicks
 
Mikez40's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2001
Location: ZR1 Gathering '04, '05 Northlake Texas
Posts: 2,512
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts

Default

Well first off , to answer your poll, The ZR-1 has already gone down in history as the "KING of the HILL". So that will never change. The Z06 never erned that title. Now with the C6 Z06 on the way, the C5 Z06 will be history with out ever eraning the title of KOTH.

With that said, since I already have ZR-1, I would love to own a Z06, if only I had the garage space. But I would not give up my ZR-1 for a Z06.

To simply put it, the Z06 is a C5 with a little more HP, The ZR-1 well, its a Legend!

Last edited by Mikez40; 07-19-2004 at 03:02 PM.
Old 07-19-2004, 02:34 PM
  #17  
GoodbyeGirl
Safety Car
 
GoodbyeGirl's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 1999
Location: Castle Rock CO
Posts: 4,833
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Cruise-In III Veteran

Default

Originally Posted by bogus
The ZR1 may be more rare, but the Z06 is more accessable. The power is the same, but the Z06 is faster... better traction... better handling... better chassis.

Get notified of new replies

To ZR-1 or Z06?

Old 07-19-2004, 03:46 PM
  #18  
onedef92
Team Owner
 
onedef92's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Location: Fort Knox, KY
Posts: 96,443
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Cruise-In IV Veteran
Cruise-In VI Veteran
Cruise-In VII Veteran
Cruise-In VIII Veteran

Default

I'd love to own an LT-5 someday!
Old 07-19-2004, 04:05 PM
  #19  
jvette44
Instructor
 
jvette44's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2004
Location: Kelowna B.C.
Posts: 203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Definitely ZR-1!! It made the rest of the auto world wake
up and realize horsepower is a good thing and will not destroy
Mankind!! ZO6 is great but ZR-1 is Legendary!!
Old 07-19-2004, 04:27 PM
  #20  
rjetrider
Advanced
 
rjetrider's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2004
Location: Miami Florida
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I've seen a lot of these posts and after reading them you'll notice the guys that own both mostly choose the ZR-1. My friend has a 90' ZR-1 and a 2003 Z06 and would burn his Z06 before selling his ZR-1.


Quick Reply: ZR-1 or Z06?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:34 PM.