HELP! are all c-4 steering columns the same?
05-27-2003, 06:14 PM
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HELP! are all c-4 steering columns the same?
I just found out I need a new column......when I removed my steering wheel there was ball bearings everywhere. Are all columns the same(84-96) ? Anyone who has a column for sale please let me know ....I need it ASAP! :smash:
05-27-2003, 07:09 PM
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Re: HELP! are all c-4 steering columns the same? (yoslambo1@cs.com)
05-27-2003, 09:24 PM
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Re: HELP! are all c-4 steering columns the same? (Caboboy)
Yoslambo - I have a detailed Tech Tip in the C4 section about 1992-1996 steering columns.
Upshot is - no, they're not all the same. If you have a manual 'Vette, you want one out of a manual car, and if an auto, you want one out of an auto car.
You want one with the same airbag coil p/n as the one in your column, or you will have to re-use your old coil.
You have to re-use your lock cylinder so you can use your old keys. If you don't use your cylinder, you'll have to get the ECM/PCM reprogrammed before you can start the car.
'92-93 columns are shorter than '94-'96 columns. The '92/'93 cars have a deep-dish airbag cavity. If you put a wheel and bag from a '92/'93 car on a column from a '94/'96 car, the wheel will be about 2" closer to your chest, but it works.
I don't know if you can put a wheel from a '94/'96 car onto a column from a '92/'93 car. The shaft may be too long.
You'll need a brand-new column jam nut for the wheel. You'll need a wheel puller, a lock-plate compressor, and a photographic memory.
You don't want a column out of a front-wrecked car. There are plastic injection moldings in the column that shear away in a wreck allowing the column to collapse. A collapsed column is scrap.
Upshot is - no, they're not all the same. If you have a manual 'Vette, you want one out of a manual car, and if an auto, you want one out of an auto car.
You want one with the same airbag coil p/n as the one in your column, or you will have to re-use your old coil.
You have to re-use your lock cylinder so you can use your old keys. If you don't use your cylinder, you'll have to get the ECM/PCM reprogrammed before you can start the car.
'92-93 columns are shorter than '94-'96 columns. The '92/'93 cars have a deep-dish airbag cavity. If you put a wheel and bag from a '92/'93 car on a column from a '94/'96 car, the wheel will be about 2" closer to your chest, but it works.
I don't know if you can put a wheel from a '94/'96 car onto a column from a '92/'93 car. The shaft may be too long.
You'll need a brand-new column jam nut for the wheel. You'll need a wheel puller, a lock-plate compressor, and a photographic memory.
You don't want a column out of a front-wrecked car. There are plastic injection moldings in the column that shear away in a wreck allowing the column to collapse. A collapsed column is scrap.
05-27-2003, 09:29 PM
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Re: HELP! are all c-4 steering columns the same? (Matt Black)
Yoslambo - I have a detailed Tech Tip in the C4 section about 1992-1996 steering columns.
Upshot is - no, they're not all the same. If you have a manual 'Vette, you want one out of a manual car, and if an auto, you want one out of an auto car.
You want one with the same airbag coil p/n as the one in your column, or you will have to re-use your old coil.
You have to re-use your lock cylinder so you can use your old keys. If you don't use your cylinder, you'll have to get the ECM/PCM reprogrammed before you can start the car.
'92-93 columns are shorter than '94-'96 columns. The '92/'93 cars have a deep-dish airbag cavity. If you put a wheel and bag from a '92/'93 car on a column from a '94/'96 car, the wheel will be about 2" closer to your chest, but it works.
I don't know if you can put a wheel from a '94/'96 car onto a column from a '92/'93 car. The shaft may be too long.
You'll need a brand-new column jam nut for the wheel. You'll need a wheel puller, a lock-plate compressor, and a photographic memory.
You don't want a column out of a front-wrecked car. There are plastic injection moldings in the column that shear away in a wreck allowing the column to collapse. A collapsed column is scrap.
Upshot is - no, they're not all the same. If you have a manual 'Vette, you want one out of a manual car, and if an auto, you want one out of an auto car.
You want one with the same airbag coil p/n as the one in your column, or you will have to re-use your old coil.
You have to re-use your lock cylinder so you can use your old keys. If you don't use your cylinder, you'll have to get the ECM/PCM reprogrammed before you can start the car.
'92-93 columns are shorter than '94-'96 columns. The '92/'93 cars have a deep-dish airbag cavity. If you put a wheel and bag from a '92/'93 car on a column from a '94/'96 car, the wheel will be about 2" closer to your chest, but it works.
I don't know if you can put a wheel from a '94/'96 car onto a column from a '92/'93 car. The shaft may be too long.
You'll need a brand-new column jam nut for the wheel. You'll need a wheel puller, a lock-plate compressor, and a photographic memory.
You don't want a column out of a front-wrecked car. There are plastic injection moldings in the column that shear away in a wreck allowing the column to collapse. A collapsed column is scrap.
05-27-2003, 09:33 PM
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Re: HELP! are all c-4 steering columns the same? (Caboboy)
05-27-2003, 09:45 PM
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Re: HELP! are all c-4 steering columns the same? (yoslambo1@cs.com)
Okay. 1984 columns are different from all the rest of the C4 columns. I think. The eBay seller thinks his will work. I thought that the turn/cancel/dimmer switch assembly was different. And you'll still have to go manual-to-manual or auto-to-auto.
Autos have a cable backdrive feature to keep you from pulling the key while the car is in gear. Manual columns don't have the CB.
[Modified by Matt Black, 8:46 PM 5/27/2003]
Autos have a cable backdrive feature to keep you from pulling the key while the car is in gear. Manual columns don't have the CB.
[Modified by Matt Black, 8:46 PM 5/27/2003]
05-27-2003, 10:23 PM
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Re: HELP! are all c-4 steering columns the same? (Matt Black)
Call Taber's corvette parts. They have them in stock. I believe they are used for $350. A new one is much more i believe.
05-27-2003, 10:27 PM
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Re: HELP! are all c-4 steering columns the same? (DocToss)
By the way, where did the bearings come from? I have had my wheel off the vette and my avalanche, and have never seen any place for bearings where the steering wheel comes off.
05-27-2003, 10:31 PM
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Re: HELP! are all c-4 steering columns the same? (DocToss)
By the way, where did the bearings come from? I have had my wheel off the vette and my avalanche, and have never seen any place for bearings where the steering wheel comes off.
05-28-2003, 07:55 PM
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Re: HELP! are all c-4 steering columns the same? (yoslambo1@cs.com)
I am not happy.....I offered Chuck Pelton $500.00 & my wheel for his column & wheel.....He said no....I then emailed him this: I was offering $500.00 with my old wheel....the way the auction is worded with a $600.00 bid & my wheel I would pay $525.00 plus my wheel for the column/wheel if I was the only bidder right? Thats why I made the offer....I only was chopping $25.00 I thought it was a fair offer? how much is a used column? how nice is the used(play in the tilt/paint condition?) I really would rather buy your new column/wheel but dont want to wait for auction to end....please let me know as tomorrow Im buying one somewhere ......I went this past weekend vetless (rained nonstop...wtf) & I dont want to this weekend if I can help it. I have a tax id if it helps?I would want it delivered to a business so shipping would be less for you. Let me know....Eric/ yoslambo1@cs.com He didnt bother to reply & when I checked the auction today he raised the price to $700.00 & removed the $100.00 core for old steering wheel! WTF!!! :mad :cuss :banghead: Now I dont want anything from this guy.... I am soo pissed....why do people have to be like this! :rant: Looks like Im ordering a carbon fiber steering wheel & a used column....I hope he never sells it! :smash: What a jerk! :cuss
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05-28-2003, 08:02 PM
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Re: HELP! are all c-4 steering columns the same? (yoslambo1@cs.com)
He just emailed me this: I have had numerous inquiries on the wheel and column and have an offer
above the new price if I want to wait and deliver to one of the upcoming
shows. The cost of the wheel and horn cap alone is almost $700. I really
think that if it does not sell I will either deliver to the person that is
interested or just keep it. If anything changes I will contact and perhaps
we can work out an agreement. What State do you live in?
Chuck :rolleyes: I guess $ is more important than integrity!
above the new price if I want to wait and deliver to one of the upcoming
shows. The cost of the wheel and horn cap alone is almost $700. I really
think that if it does not sell I will either deliver to the person that is
interested or just keep it. If anything changes I will contact and perhaps
we can work out an agreement. What State do you live in?
Chuck :rolleyes: I guess $ is more important than integrity!
