Why C4 Does Not Have a Ram Air System?
07-09-2017, 07:55 PM
#1
Racer
Thread Starter
Why C4 Does Not Have a Ram Air System?
Buddy of mine asked me why the C4 has no Ram Air but I said DON'T KNOW so who has the license plate cut out for fresh RAM AIR? Why did C4 not have a space for fresh Air to enter ?
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http://emracingcorp.com/scripts/prod...?idProduct=215
http://www.breathlessracing.com/inde...productId=1213
http://www.corvetteflorida.com/forum...ad.php?t=35571
07-09-2017, 08:00 PM
#2
Because GM didn't want it.
07-09-2017, 08:05 PM
#4
Team Owner
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Why bother with what? Putting one in? Ambient air temp -especially on the later C4's.
07-09-2017, 08:15 PM
#6
Team Owner
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Seen 'em. Don't know what your point is...or question.
07-09-2017, 09:02 PM
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Pontiac had the market for "ram air". Chevy saw no reason for it
07-09-2017, 10:03 PM
#9
do they have any effect whatsoever on perforemance?
07-09-2017, 10:18 PM
#10
Racer
Thread Starter
Brother I mean a system that opens the FRONT licence plate then u cut a hole to the stock Air Filter then cut into some steel and radiater shroud. There is no doubt FRESH pressurized Air will now be forced in from outside rather than from inside the HOT engine compartment and the installation looks pretty slick and almost stock , these systems used to be offered by the usual aftermarket companies almost all NON KOMMIEFURNIA companies (Eckler, Mid-America, Corvette Central, etc.) but apparently the one dude that made these stopped making them but still in my view these were the nicest and cleanest looking kits that ever offered for C4 true Ram FRESH Air from Licence Plate Opening now do ya understand me brother?
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07-09-2017, 11:31 PM
#12
Team Owner
07-09-2017, 11:35 PM
#13
Team Owner
Brother I mean a system that opens the FRONT licence plate then u cut a hole to the stock Air Filter then cut into some steel and radiater shroud. There is no doubt FRESH pressurized Air will now be forced in from outside rather than from inside the HOT engine compartment and the installation looks pretty slick and almost stock , these systems used to be offered by the usual aftermarket companies almost all NON KOMMIEFURNIA companies (Eckler, Mid-America, Corvette Central, etc.) but apparently the one dude that made these stopped making them but still in my view these were the nicest and cleanest looking kits that ever offered for C4 true Ram FRESH Air from Licence Plate Opening now do ya understand me brother?
Edit: It may pick up a little cooler air at a stop light but once you get going, I think the difference is going to be negligible unless you are running something way outside street vehicles. If I have to spend $500 to make 1HP, I think there is other lower hanging fruit, so to speak. Now if I were part of a race team and 1HP is what could stand between me and the prize purse, well, that is what I have sponsors for.
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07-10-2017, 12:09 AM
#14
Race Director
There's a few good reasons, the first is the most obvious - the factory system has more turns and thus it's harder to suck in water. There no real benefit to it performance e wise at car speeds, most scoops that are functional nowdays feed a top mount intercooler. Third, it just wasn't needed, the c4 intake tunes flow plenty of air for all the engines installed in them, so you really don't gain anything by changing anything about the intake. And as others said, the intake Temps for ram air in the front bumper vs pulling from under the car is negligible.
07-10-2017, 12:22 AM
#15
Racer
Thread Starter
No brother , the stock Air Box is confined and closed off in a small space breathing in HOT air , with the Licence Plate Cut Out you get fresh condensed Ram Air don't ya see dat brother? Look da Pic ................
Last edited by Retired Mechanic; 07-10-2017 at 12:26 AM.
07-10-2017, 12:23 AM
#16
Team Owner
Look, "Brother". Have you ever seen a car run better with it than without it consistently?
07-10-2017, 12:29 AM
#19
Racer
Thread Starter
I bag to argue dat GM Fuked up cause if they made a Ram Air thru the License Plate imagine da hp increase of pure fresh NON HOT air bro , can't you see where I am coming from bro? Current Air Box location breathes in HOT air , not cold air or fresh air bro.
07-10-2017, 12:30 AM
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Brother I mean a system that opens the FRONT licence plate then u cut a hole to the stock Air Filter then cut into some steel and radiater shroud. There is no doubt FRESH pressurized Air will now be forced in from outside rather than from inside the HOT engine compartment and the installation looks pretty slick and almost stock , these systems used to be offered by the usual aftermarket companies almost all NON KOMMIEFURNIA companies (Eckler, Mid-America, Corvette Central, etc.) but apparently the one dude that made these stopped making them but still in my view these were the nicest and cleanest looking kits that ever offered for C4 true Ram FRESH Air from Licence Plate Opening now do ya understand me brother?
Don't let Bow Tie Guy see your part I highlighted in bold...he'll start calling you names and telling you how stupid you are (even though you're totally correct.
There was a lengthy thread on the subject of how 'Vettes have "hot air intakes" (that was my position) and in that thread, I did a bunch of picture taking, inlet air temp reading etc. I pretty well proved that the later (LT1) 'Vettes are inhaling underwood air...which is hotter than outside air.