Oil filters
#41
Melting Slicks
AC Delco for me.
#43
Race Director
A friend races a 460 Ford engine and insists on using a mechanical gauge over an electrical gauge because he says it reacts faster to pressure changes. (IDK) But he had to back out of the throttle a couple of times after fresh oil & Fram filter because the pressure kept dropping off. Replaced the Fram with a Wix and the problem was solved. Another friend blew a Fram up on his Boss 302. Lucky he was just sitting in the driveway and revved the engine. POW...oil everywhere! (FORDs.. Yes, I hang out on the dark side of the Force.. ) No Frams for me!
#44
Drifting
I too use K&N filters and have for going on 3 years now. However the clock is ticking on K&N oil filters made in the USA. They are nopw made in Mexico and the guts of them has changed. I saw a thread about K&N oil filters made in Mexico and side by side Mexican and American made the difference was clear. I have one in my garage and when it is gone I will have to switch to a different brand.
#47
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The lowest-grade "standard" Mobil 1 filter is approved for 15,000-mile oil change intervals. Even the higher-end filters from brands such as Purolator (yellow can), Wix, NAPA (Gold), etc. are not approved for these extended intervals.
And I don't think Mobil 1 is the best filter, it's one of the best. There are others that are better.
And I don't think Mobil 1 is the best filter, it's one of the best. There are others that are better.
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#49
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Step 1.. always
The only filter I've ever seen blow was a fram on a SBC. Friend of mine had a new 355 w/a high flow oil pump. The fram blew on the first drive he took. He switched to a HP version fram and didn't have any problems.
Me personally, I use pure-o-later pure ones, AC delco, or motorcraft.
The only filter I've ever seen blow was a fram on a SBC. Friend of mine had a new 355 w/a high flow oil pump. The fram blew on the first drive he took. He switched to a HP version fram and didn't have any problems.
Me personally, I use pure-o-later pure ones, AC delco, or motorcraft.
#50
Cruising
Has anyone ever had a oil filter fail/blow out? My 93 is stock and i just had a fram leak BAD. I got it off and its sitting in pan with 5 qts of mobile 1. Anyone have a favorite? This is a first for me. Im lucky it happened in my driveway i noticed it as i was backing out of carport.
I am the technical director at FRAM. We would very much like to see and evaluate what happened to cause this issue.
Please call FRAM product evaluation at Prodeval@framgrp.com or call 888-889-8374. They will be happy to assist. GM is the only engine maker that puts the oil filter bypass in the engine block. It can stick closed and under certain circumstances cause issues with the filter, any brand of filter. There are also many misguided engine builders who block off this valve thinking it is a good idea to force all oil through the filter all the time. One reason we build a high flow bypass into our GM racing filters. Every engine maker in the world would disagree with that line of thought as all OE engine have a filter bypass in the block or filter. As far as the comments by the rest of you-
Mobil 1 filters are made by FRAM, AC Delco filters are made by FRAM, K+N filters used o be made by FRAM and are now made in korea. We make four different levels of filters, on corvettes you should be using a FRAM Ultra, pleated screen with two layers of full synthetic media, silicone ADBV, steel end caps, 99% filtration@ 20 microns. 9 bucks, for the best filter in the industry.
#51
Le Mans Master
Dave,
I am the technical director at FRAM. We would very much like to see and evaluate what happened to cause this issue.
Please call FRAM product evaluation at Prodeval@framgrp.com or call 888-889-8374. They will be happy to assist. GM is the only engine maker that puts the oil filter bypass in the engine block. It can stick closed and under certain circumstances cause issues with the filter, any brand of filter. There are also many misguided engine builders who block off this valve thinking it is a good idea to force all oil through the filter all the time. One reason we build a high flow bypass into our GM racing filters. Every engine maker in the world would disagree with that line of thought as all OE engine have a filter bypass in the block or filter. As far as the comments by the rest of you-
Mobil 1 filters are made by FRAM, AC Delco filters are made by FRAM, K+N filters used o be made by FRAM and are now made in korea. We make four different levels of filters, on corvettes you should be using a FRAM Ultra, pleated screen with two layers of full synthetic media, silicone ADBV, steel end caps, 99% filtration@ 20 microns. 9 bucks, for the best filter in the industry.
I am the technical director at FRAM. We would very much like to see and evaluate what happened to cause this issue.
Please call FRAM product evaluation at Prodeval@framgrp.com or call 888-889-8374. They will be happy to assist. GM is the only engine maker that puts the oil filter bypass in the engine block. It can stick closed and under certain circumstances cause issues with the filter, any brand of filter. There are also many misguided engine builders who block off this valve thinking it is a good idea to force all oil through the filter all the time. One reason we build a high flow bypass into our GM racing filters. Every engine maker in the world would disagree with that line of thought as all OE engine have a filter bypass in the block or filter. As far as the comments by the rest of you-
Mobil 1 filters are made by FRAM, AC Delco filters are made by FRAM, K+N filters used o be made by FRAM and are now made in korea. We make four different levels of filters, on corvettes you should be using a FRAM Ultra, pleated screen with two layers of full synthetic media, silicone ADBV, steel end caps, 99% filtration@ 20 microns. 9 bucks, for the best filter in the industry.
Last edited by WW7; 08-21-2014 at 12:36 PM.
#52
Cruising
So your saying your lower line of filters are junk and shouldn't be used on a Chevy small block?? That we have to spend $9.00 on a Fram filter to get one that won't either bust open or collapse when used...Why spend that much on your top of the line filter when we can buy a Wix or a Puralator Pure One for $6.00 and never have to worry about a failure of any kind..I have never heard anyone say don't buy a Wix filter because it failed.. Check the net, it's full of people complaining about Fram filters failing..There are at least 4 or 5 independent reviews on line saying Fram is the worst filter out there....Is everyone else wrong??...WW
Secondly, our standard filter is 95.7% efficient@20 microns, WIX is around 85%. Purolator? google tearolator for a minute or go to www.bobistheoilguy.com and see pictures of Puro's with tears in the media? Read up on FRAM Tough Guard and Ultra on the same forum. My statement was if you want the best filter in the market, use Ultra. Do some research and stop swallowing the tribal knowledge on the internet. Some dude cutting open filters and making comment hardly tells you anything about filtration performance.
#53
Cruising
So your saying your lower line of filters are junk and shouldn't be used on a Chevy small block?? That we have to spend $9.00 on a Fram filter to get one that won't either burst open or collapse when used...Why spend that much on your top of the line filter when we can buy a Wix or a Puralator Pure One for $6.00 and never have to worry about a failure of any kind..I have never heard anyone say, don't buy a Wix filter because it failed.. Check the net, it's full of people complaining about Fram filters failing..There are at least 4 or 5 independent reviews on line saying Fram is the worst filter out there,they cut them apart and examine them,so it doesn't get any more up close then that......Is everyone else wrong??...WW
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...pics/3459920/1
#54
Le Mans Master
Hardly what I am saying at all. First off, if FRAM was so bad then why would GM, Ford, Honda and Subaru, Mercury Marine use them as their OE supplier? Would companies like Royal Purple and Mobil1 use us for manufacturing?
Secondly, our standard filter is 95.7% efficient@20 microns, WIX is around 85%. Purolator? google tearolator for a minute or go to www.bobistheoilguy.com and see pictures of Puro's with tears in the media? Read up on FRAM Tough Guard and Ultra on the same forum. My statement was if you want the best filter in the market, use Ultra. Do some research and stop swallowing the tribal knowledge on the internet. Some dude cutting open filters and making comment hardly tells you anything about filtration performance.
Secondly, our standard filter is 95.7% efficient@20 microns, WIX is around 85%. Purolator? google tearolator for a minute or go to www.bobistheoilguy.com and see pictures of Puro's with tears in the media? Read up on FRAM Tough Guard and Ultra on the same forum. My statement was if you want the best filter in the market, use Ultra. Do some research and stop swallowing the tribal knowledge on the internet. Some dude cutting open filters and making comment hardly tells you anything about filtration performance.
Last edited by WW7; 08-21-2014 at 09:40 PM.
#55
Le Mans Master
Here is little reading for you if you really thing Purolator is so good. this is one of many strings were the filter media tears and just allows unfiltered oil into the engine
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...pics/3459920/1
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...pics/3459920/1
Im finished talking,,go peddle your "crazy" somewhere else, we're all filled up here...
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Last edited by WW7; 08-21-2014 at 03:07 PM.
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Dave,
I am the technical director at FRAM. We would very much like to see and evaluate what happened to cause this issue.
Please call FRAM product evaluation at Prodeval@framgrp.com or call 888-889-8374. They will be happy to assist. GM is the only engine maker that puts the oil filter bypass in the engine block. It can stick closed and under certain circumstances cause issues with the filter, any brand of filter. There are also many misguided engine builders who block off this valve thinking it is a good idea to force all oil through the filter all the time. One reason we build a high flow bypass into our GM racing filters. Every engine maker in the world would disagree with that line of thought as all OE engine have a filter bypass in the block or filter. As far as the comments by the rest of you-
Mobil 1 filters are made by FRAM, AC Delco filters are made by FRAM, K+N filters used o be made by FRAM and are now made in korea. We make four different levels of filters, on corvettes you should be using a FRAM Ultra, pleated screen with two layers of full synthetic media, silicone ADBV, steel end caps, 99% filtration@ 20 microns. 9 bucks, for the best filter in the industry.
I am the technical director at FRAM. We would very much like to see and evaluate what happened to cause this issue.
Please call FRAM product evaluation at Prodeval@framgrp.com or call 888-889-8374. They will be happy to assist. GM is the only engine maker that puts the oil filter bypass in the engine block. It can stick closed and under certain circumstances cause issues with the filter, any brand of filter. There are also many misguided engine builders who block off this valve thinking it is a good idea to force all oil through the filter all the time. One reason we build a high flow bypass into our GM racing filters. Every engine maker in the world would disagree with that line of thought as all OE engine have a filter bypass in the block or filter. As far as the comments by the rest of you-
Mobil 1 filters are made by FRAM, AC Delco filters are made by FRAM, K+N filters used o be made by FRAM and are now made in korea. We make four different levels of filters, on corvettes you should be using a FRAM Ultra, pleated screen with two layers of full synthetic media, silicone ADBV, steel end caps, 99% filtration@ 20 microns. 9 bucks, for the best filter in the industry.
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Different grades of all parts out there.
You can get a Gates hose at your local auto parts and can see how cheap of quality it is. If you know someone who runs a mom and pop pts store you can order the higher quality (same brand) ones that last;same with belts, etc etc.
Ill pay 10 bux over 5 for a good filter to protect an expensive motor any day. BUT it better be truly good quality internally. I dont care what brand it is.
You can get a Gates hose at your local auto parts and can see how cheap of quality it is. If you know someone who runs a mom and pop pts store you can order the higher quality (same brand) ones that last;same with belts, etc etc.
Ill pay 10 bux over 5 for a good filter to protect an expensive motor any day. BUT it better be truly good quality internally. I dont care what brand it is.
#58
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I have not had an oil filter blow out. I have had one leak after removing the oil filter adapter, and failing to notice the seal was stuck on the block.
I use NAPA Gold filters, and stock up on them during the filter sales.
I use NAPA Gold filters, and stock up on them during the filter sales.
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Well, hello!
After all these years, what has prompted you to surface now?
If you are whom you claim to be? Which I doubt since your location is " detroit micgigan"
A real vendor would not present himself otherwise
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After all these years, what has prompted you to surface now?
If you are whom you claim to be? Which I doubt since your location is " detroit micgigan"
A real vendor would not present himself otherwise
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Please call FRAM product evaluation at Prodeval@framgrp.com...
Please call FRAM product evaluation at Prodeval@framgrp.com...