aboatguy

I just read another post where the owner of a a stockish Corvette (stock head cam etc) raises eyebrows when he pulls away from C6 corvettes..... IE out accelerates them..

Do base C4 have a magical torquemonster residing in them that allows

(I'll cherry pick the best stock number IE mix and match) 340 Horsepower and 350 lb ft outperform (using worst year C6 specs from Corvette museum article) 400 hp and 400 lb ft


I believe the posters are mistaken. However, if I'm wrong, and the C4 base power train is magical where are the threads like:


Anyone performed the LS3 to L83 swap. I really hate the performance of my 2008 Coupe, anyone performed a L83 , TPI, LT1, LT4 swap?

Once again I'm leaving modified and the ZR1s out since IMHO the C4 zr1 LT5 is an underappreciated and underrated engine especially at prolonged high speed evolutions.
Mike

96 Vette CE

Proof of post or i have to call

Sweet 90

Possibly the C6 owner is just laughing too hard.
Oh dear God

aboatguy

You have a PM

John A. Marker

If the "stock Vette" was a ZR1...perhaps. If you are talking only a very short distance, lets say less than 1/8 of a mile with rear end grears..then perhaps also.

My 85 ZZ4 with cam, head...see list below would keep up or shut down C5's and C6's many times up to about 1/8 mile on the track. Then they would hit their RPM torque range and leave me behind.

Sorry, I just can't see it with a stock car.

Just BOB

I get shut down by clowns in pickup trucks all the time in my bone stock 94 LT1/ZF6. I'd rather have those jerks in front of me rather than behind me. If they claim bragging rights due to my sandbagging, AND flush a few radar cops out of hiding in the process, so be it!

dizwiz24

i agree, im especially surprised we dont hear of ltx swaps into late model corvettes - much like you heard of people having wet dreams over swapping 'big blocks' into 80s f-bodies and stuff like that.

Anyways, its no surprise they brought back the lt1 motor in the C7.

I might actually have to get out and buy one since chevrolet got some brains for once.

DinoBob

I, for one, am a happy L98 owner who does not pretend the car is anything more than it is. Very fun to drive and pretty fast in the RPM range I spend my time around.

PLRX

Yes, we are ready for the weekend. Another trollish thread indicating the C4 is better than newer Vettes.

DinoBob

You mean it's not? What if I put in a K&N filter, 160 degree tstat, new plugs and wires, cap, rotor, a chip I got on EBay that promises me 50 HP, bypass the coolant lines on the intake, and wax the car with some REALLY slippery wax? Won't I dust my neighbor's new Z06? Say it isn't so...I paid $5300 for this car and the seller promised 10.5 1/4 mile times!

aboatguy

If you believe that this thread is indicating that the C4 is better than the C6 you missed this part of the OP

Glenno

Nicely said "Very fun to drive and pretty fast in the RPM range I spend my time around". I hear you on this statement!

PLRX

NO Stock C4 will EVER pull away from any base stock C5 or C6. NEVER.

I can do a bit with The Ghost (base C5 and base C6), but it has never pull away, and it is because there nothing LT4 about it. Never with a C6 Z06.

Betty Boop (stock LT1) can hang with a LS1, but will never pull away.

If you know a L83 or L98 that can do that please inform me because I'd like to see their modifications.

Tell us what are you indicating. Am I wrong? You are saying the L83, L98, LT1, LT4 (production C4 engines) pull away from any of the LS SBC.

On the LT5, I've seen that one pull away from C5 Z06, and C6.

aboatguy

I'm indicating that for a stockish base c4 to out accelerate a stock C6 would defy the laws of physics....if both cars were in proper working order and both drivers aware of the competion and were trying...


To repeat L83>L98>LT1>LT4>LS2 (ls2 is least powerful C6 engine)

I left the LT5 out since it performs better than its peak numbers indicate...due to WIDE powercurve.

Mike

did you get my pm with one of the posts that started this thread?

Silver96ce

You forgot the airfoil, throttle switch, 58mm throttle body and (insert name here) performance mufflers.

PLRX

No PM, but if you got great info share it here for everybody.

PLRX

aboatguy

Hey I've got a 58mm TB, and thinking about an AS & M monoblade....

MIke

dizwiz24

This is getting funny.

When I did heads/hotcam/ LT headers on my 93 (353 rwhp / 355 rwTQ), I had a guy I work with buy a bunch of parts from Ecklers.
(owned a barely driven stock 93) .

He claimed that with his new airfoil, new 8.5mm plug 'wires', hypertech chip, K&N air filter he added that he was gonna shut me down. He added up the advertised 'HP claims' of the parts he bought that he exceeded what I put down at the dyno. lol. Especially because my car was the heavier 'slower 'vert (and he referenced a video that came with his car stating the vert's are slower).

I never got a chance to race him, but I would have loved it.

Tom400CFI

I think the OP is making a second attempt to call out people who make bogus claims. The claim in the quote above, being one of those.

Aboatguy, correct me if I'm wrong here, but to explain this further....There IS a pattern on forums for people to refer to the TPI as a "Tq monster", "nothing can beat it off the line", Etc. etc...and that just ain't true. Any TPI owner who thinks they're going to go beat a C6 in a stop light drag, is going to get abused. Or made fun of for trying. This would be LIKE, if there were a repeating pattern of LT1 guys bragging about their "high-winding" LT1's. High rev'ing this, and high RPM screamer that...when in reality, an LS1/2/3/6/7/9...can all go higher, make more tq everywhere and more hp too. It would be retarded if LT1 guys were pontificating about their "hi-rev" stock LT1's. I don't really SEE that happening though (and I'm glad that I don't). aboatguy basically said what needed to be said, and that is that the L98 ISN'T a "magical tq monster". It's (at BEST) at 350 ft-lb, 350. Pretty darn average tq/displacement output there, and certainly not enough to win anything on "tq" alone.

And if ^that^ isn't true, then aboatguy would like some clarification on the C4 RPO combo that WILL, actually beat C6's.



Did I sum that up about right?