Impala Balko

I want to upgrade my brakes to the C6 brakes... What all do I need.... I know I need the bracket for the front so the calipers can bolt to the stock sponsors, calipers c6 front and rear rotors pads but where can I get a bracket for the rear and a ebrake conversion so I can get the ebrake to work

WVZR-1

And you'll likely need wheels! There's a good bit of money involved for something that if you don't need the "actual performance" claimed you can do without! If you actually need the "performance" there's many products out there that are proven performers and "not" something that has been maybe bolted together and "claimed" performance. Most adapters are fabrications by the guy down the street! I haven't seen any advertised by trusted vendors. I'll admit I haven't looked because I don't feel there's a need for the product!

I'd be more impressed by the Baer, Wildwood or other packages that are known "performers"!

Impala Balko

I was looking at the wilwood 6r but its 1700 just for the fronts and I would need bigger wheels for that as well.... I am sick of the inadequate brakes on this car and I would like to get more involved with auto x so I need better brakes and suspension so I would like to get that stuff taken care of over the winter months while I have the car apart.

LT5corsa

I agree with WV ZR-1

Good place to start is what kind of wheels do you have and want?

You will need 18 X 10 front wheels (with specific offset to fit C6 Z06 brakes) and 19 X 12 rears.

Once you decide on wheels that will fit the C6 Z06 calipers you want, I can help you with what you will need to instll them.

It ain't cheap!



David

Impala Balko

I was thinking of getting C6 grand sport, centenial, or ZO6 spyder wheels 18 front 19 back or 19 front 20 back. I would like to fit the 12" wide wheels outback. Is the braking performance noticable over doing C5 brakes.

PLRX

Yeah let us know, I also wonder if the C6 Z06 brakes would be better than C5 brakes.

LT5corsa

I had C5 brakes and they were excellent.

The C6 Z06 brakes with Ceramic Hawk Pads (less brake dust) are unreal and worth every penny spent.

If I went with stock pads or upgraded Hawk pads, they would give much better performance.

I've had a few friends drive my car and notice a HUGE difference....



David

Impala Balko

Is it completely idiotic to run just the C6 z big brakes up front and run the stock rears

Sleazy Rider

call paul at van steel. they can put together a package that installs the c6z06 brakes in front, an e-brake adapter and c6z06 brakes on the rear. and reasonable!

vetteoz

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...-and-pics.html

LT5corsa

It's most likely a cost factor and not owners being idiots

How much we're you planning to spend?

shakedown067

Yep, was just looking at the Van Steel kit at the NCRS Kissimmee show. You can purchase your own calipers, they supply you with all the hardware you need to install. Didn't get the price as I got new wheels not that long ago so it's no good for me.

Impala Balko

I've seen the fronts calipers with rotors running for as low as 400 and the rears as low as 350 so I would like to do this around 1500 without wheels. But I may just get the fronts for now just to save a little bit of money.... I have some wheels I would like to off load to recoup some funds.

GS 163

Not sure if this helps at all, but I just installed this set up on my Camaro and they clear 17" wheels.

Kubs

No. My race car has 14" rotors and Brembo 4 piston calipers, and stock C6 rear slide rail calipers. It may not be the look you are going for, but all the function is still there. The only things you gain in a fixed caliper are better pad life at the track, and more consistent braking when they get hot. Clamping force is the same if the piston volume is the same.

Impala Balko

What's the info on the willwoods... How many pistons in the calliper size of rotors

Impala Balko

What's the difference between the stock C6 rears and the C4 slide rears..... Where is the ebrake on the C6 rear brakes

Tom400CFI

The C6 rear rotor is a little larger diameter, and a good bit more thick. C6 still sports a single piston sliding rear caliper.

E-brake is shoes, in the rotor "hat". Basic drum system.

C6 Z06, uses even bigger rear rotors and a fixed, 4 piston caliper. Same or similar parking brake system as the base C6.

I can not believe that you would need a C6 Z06 system for auto-x. Low speeds, 1 lap? I never had a problem w/the STOCK brakes on my 3rd gen F-bod. And they were crap compared to the C5 brakes/HP+/RBF600 set up I have now.

96GS#007

Before you spend a bunch of money, go buy some decent pads....Carbotech XP10s / 8s (F/ R), bleed with some quality fluid (Ate Super Blue, Motul, etc), and add cooling ducts to the front. You will be amazed at the difference. I ran this setup for many years on some very brake intensive tracks with Hoosier R6s and Nitto NT01s (when I got tired of blowing through front hubs in a day), and it's more than sufficient for HPDEs, Time Trials, and auto-x.

Will the brake feel ever be as good as C6 Z06 brakes?...No (keep in mind a lot of guys don't like them either!). The C6 Z / GS brakes won't be as nice as StopTech or some of the other aftermarket setups either, so where do you draw the line? Lastly, brake feel is also a function of the Master Cylinder...ie swapping calipers and rotors is only part of the solution.

Btw....have you priced C6 Z06 / GS brake pads? Not cheap, at least by my measure. OEM will set you back $300+ for a set (although you can find <100 mile take-offs in the C6 section for ~$200). Carbotechs can be $600+, etc.

Kubs

They are all single piston slider rail calipers, they just differ a bit in size. Also, the C5/C6 brakes have a drum parking brake in the center of the rotor, as opposed to the caliper parking brake on the C4. My race car does not have a parking brake, but I know there are companies that sell adapters.

I actually have a bit of a mixed setup on the rear of my car. I have the C6 Z51 rotor with a C5 caliper. Here are the differences:

C4 rear - 12" rotor 40mm piston caliper
C5/base C6 rear - 12" rotor 45mm piston
C6 Z51 rear - 13" rotor 42.5mm piston

All C5s and the base C6 use the same rear brakes. The C6 Z51 got larger rotors all around, but since it was a larger increase in the rear they made the caliper piston smaller. I am using the larger rotor diameter from the C6 Z51, with the larger piston in the C5/base C6 caliper. These brakes in the rear balance out my fronts well to a 65%f/35%r bias.