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Old 12-15-2012, 01:01 AM
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I was looking to replace my seats, Well I bought some cheap off craigslist.

the problem is there red seats, which I thought I could use.
then decide I dont want to use red.
I posted them forsale on here, I guess no one else wants red.

Last night it hit me, I have a bunch of leather products. (from a Shoe store, I bought out back in the late 90's at Seven mile & Evergreen Locals might remeber it)

well I decide, I would try and strip them and redye the seats Black.

tonight I decide to test it out, on one seat bottom.
here is the first application.



It soaked up the dye and looks Awesome.
A couple more applications and they'll be awesome.
Old 12-15-2012, 07:12 AM
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I did a lot this past summer, went from that nasty tan to charc grey. I liked the end results. My seats were shot in and out so rebuilt them.
I went with seat cover though.
Old 12-15-2012, 01:35 PM
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Brand name of the stripper & dye?
Old 12-15-2012, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chilliwack vettes
Brand name of the stripper & dye?
Fiebings is the brand name.

But I have ran into an Issue, The factory seats are not all Leather.
Some of it is vinyl which wont absorb the leather dye.
I'm working on a fix for that.
Old 12-16-2012, 08:30 AM
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You will need to change over to a vinyl paint like duplicolor. Worked for me.
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Originally Posted by Halister
You will need to change over to a vinyl paint like duplicolor. Worked for me.
I have been experimenting with ink for the vinyl, which seems to have worked.
The leather totally excepted the dye.
I have one seat back left to dye.
Pictures will come later today.

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Old 12-16-2012, 08:03 PM
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I tried the dye first and after it dried I wasn't thrilled with it. What kind are you using?
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Originally Posted by Halister
I tried the dye first and after it dried I wasn't thrilled with it. What kind are you using?
Was it the leather or the vinyl you werent happy with?
You can tell which is leather and vinyl by looking at the back of the material, leather has suede on the back and Vinyl has a cotton weave on the back.
Old 12-16-2012, 09:52 PM
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SEM makes an actual vinyl dye.


http://www.tcpglobal.com/spraypaintd...FQHonAodkGIANw
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Here is the Stripper/Deglazer I used.

This is the Dye.

This is used after your done with your dye.
Then use saddle soap.



The Seat Bottom has had 2 apps and rubbed between coats and after the 2nd coat.
The Seat Back has had 1 app and not rubbed yet.


Scott

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Old 12-17-2012, 02:16 AM
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Never thought to use the saddle soap. Dam..
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Is the rolled and pleated bottom leather or vinyl?
Old 12-17-2012, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by eddog
Is the rolled and pleated bottom leather or vinyl?
All the seating surfaces are leather and most of the areas that touch you.
The rolled pleats on the sides are vinyl as well as the sides of the seats.

I hope that helps you?

Scott
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Be careful with saddle soap. Old leather has a surface coating and saddle soap will work fine with it. Newer leather is vat dyed, which causes the color to go all the way through the leather, and is an entirely different tanning process. Vat dyed leather does not like saddle soap. I believe all C4 leather is vat dyed, but I am not going to go out and scratch the leather in my 1992 seats to find out.
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Originally Posted by Kmcoldcars
Be careful with saddle soap. Old leather has a surface coating and saddle soap will work fine with it. Newer leather is vat dyed, which causes the color to go all the way through the leather, and is an entirely different tanning process. Vat dyed leather does not like saddle soap. I believe all C4 leather is vat dyed, but I am not going to go out and scratch the leather in my 1992 seats to find out.
I have used saddle soap on all my cars and trucks.
It doesnt scratch Or scuff the leather it cleans and softens the skin side.
I have never had my leather wrinkle, crack or split on me.

I have been working with leather products well over 30 years, and my Mother taught me the trade.
Imho

Scott
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Did I hear Scott say he needs to do a how too?? ; )

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Old 12-21-2012, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Scotts97C4
It soaked up the dye and looks Awesome.
A couple more applications and they'll be awesome.
I agree ... that looks great.


Good info on the leather vs. vinyl on the seats too
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Thank You!!!

Here Is the Ink I used on the vinyl, works awesome Pretty much a 1 coat job.


Both seats have been Clean and Polished, Now I'm softening them up a little.
will post more pictures soon.

Scott
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I have been working with leather products well over 30 years, and my Mother taught me the trade.
Imho

Scott[/QUOTE]



Hi folks, Please tell me whats the difference between saddle soap and a conditioner like Lexol. Thanks.


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