EVERY Corvette owner should read this.
10-13-2012, 08:42 PM
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Most of them buy a Vette to play with a toy before they die, and they also love to speak about zaino.
Give it time and get back with us.
10-13-2012, 09:30 PM
#22
Safety Car
10-13-2012, 09:44 PM
#23
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10-13-2012, 09:56 PM
#24
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and he had grey hair
10-14-2012, 12:48 AM
#26
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A very large percentage of C5 and C6 owners are new to Corvettes. They just don't know about the wave. It is up to us to educate them. They'll get it after a while. Keep wavin'
10-14-2012, 01:01 AM
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Its my understanding that, with the introduction of the C5, owners of newer corvettes didnt want to associate themselves with the rougher-riding, slower, hard-to-get-in-and-out-of, older corvettes. They consider the C5/6 models a different 'family' of cars much like you or I would consider a chevrolet to be different than a bmw.
Only with the introduction of the 1997 corvette, did I start hearing of older corvettes start being called 'c4, c3, etc'.
I think newer corvette owners dont consider a c4 to be in the same family of cars as their pride-and-joy that they have to make sacrifices to make the payments on.
Many times on this website you will find newer corvette owners (and even former c4 owners) bashing c4 corvettes.
For these reasons, I continue to mod the snot out of my car. Im galvanized to prove a point. My latest dyno pull had me at 510 rwhp at 5400 rpm (more if I would have stayed into it). While that might be nothing compared to a supercharged C6 z-car, keep in mind that Im not done. Im building my learning curve. When I build a motor for this (im still on stock bottom end), Im going to do it right.
Ive had to take welding classes and such to learn how to make parts for this car since the aftermarket doesnt support it.
When the day is done, my goal is to prove that a c4 is equally capable as the best mod'd c5/6 z-car.
The only waving I'll be doing is a 'bye-bye' wave.
Only with the introduction of the 1997 corvette, did I start hearing of older corvettes start being called 'c4, c3, etc'.
I think newer corvette owners dont consider a c4 to be in the same family of cars as their pride-and-joy that they have to make sacrifices to make the payments on.
Many times on this website you will find newer corvette owners (and even former c4 owners) bashing c4 corvettes.
For these reasons, I continue to mod the snot out of my car. Im galvanized to prove a point. My latest dyno pull had me at 510 rwhp at 5400 rpm (more if I would have stayed into it). While that might be nothing compared to a supercharged C6 z-car, keep in mind that Im not done. Im building my learning curve. When I build a motor for this (im still on stock bottom end), Im going to do it right.
Ive had to take welding classes and such to learn how to make parts for this car since the aftermarket doesnt support it.
When the day is done, my goal is to prove that a c4 is equally capable as the best mod'd c5/6 z-car.
The only waving I'll be doing is a 'bye-bye' wave.
10-14-2012, 01:05 AM
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10-14-2012, 09:35 AM
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I've noticed indifference to the wave by many vet owners regardless of model. I always wave.
REGULAR GAS, hope it works out for you!!
Commandment #12 Thou shalt have top down on all sunny days
REGULAR GAS, hope it works out for you!!
Commandment #12 Thou shalt have top down on all sunny days
10-14-2012, 11:48 AM
#33
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I think I resent that statement. 
JK I happen to be one of those grey haired bags and have been driving vettes since 1969. I currently have a 1995 C4 and a 2013 C6. I have waved regardless of my age and if I were to make an accusation, it would be that, in my humble opinion, it is the younger generation that does not wave. No matter, I wave to all. We are all one large community. Let us not pick on one another. 
JK I happen to be one of those grey haired bags and have been driving vettes since 1969. I currently have a 1995 C4 and a 2013 C6. I have waved regardless of my age and if I were to make an accusation, it would be that, in my humble opinion, it is the younger generation that does not wave. No matter, I wave to all. We are all one large community. Let us not pick on one another.
10-14-2012, 11:57 AM
#34
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What? You didn't see any? How odd. Now, look through the C4 section and see how many of them start ripping on the newer cars with people telling why they would ever own 1.
Lookie there... it happens NONSTOP.... including right here.
For these reasons, I continue to mod the snot out of my car. Im galvanized to prove a point. My latest dyno pull had me at 510 rwhp at 5400 rpm (more if I would have stayed into it). While that might be nothing compared to a supercharged C6 z-car, keep in mind that Im not done. Im building my learning curve. When I build a motor for this (im still on stock bottom end), Im going to do it right.
The C4 was a great car in it's time and when you consider that it is now an almost 30 year old design it is damn impressive how well it has withstood the test of time. The C5/C6 is better. As it should be. Just like the C4 was an improvement over the C3. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the C7 will be better still.
In regards to QUANTIFIABLE performance characteristics, C5/C6 > C4. Get over it.
You say that the C4 is equal to the best C5? Let's take this 1 for example owned and driven by Danny Popp (Raftracer on the forum)
For reference, it is over 10 seconds faster per lap than my 500hp C4 track car on the VIR full course. 10 seconds. That means he laps me on a 3.27 mile long road course in less than 11 laps. I'm curious as to what you think it would take to make a C4 that fast.
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10-14-2012, 12:04 PM
#35
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.... and as for commandment #5. Not so much.
If you want to keep it nice and shiny in a garage, you go for it. I'd rather enjoy mine and drive it the way they were meant to be driven.
If you want to keep it nice and shiny in a garage, you go for it. I'd rather enjoy mine and drive it the way they were meant to be driven.
10-14-2012, 01:43 PM
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10-14-2012, 02:28 PM
#37
Burning Brakes
Yea. Keep telling yourself that.
I'll tell you what. Search through the C5 and C6 sections and see how many threads there are bashing C4s. Go now. I'll wait.
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What? You didn't see any? How odd. Now, look through the C4 section and see how many of them start ripping on the newer cars with people telling why they would ever own 1.
Lookie there... it happens NONSTOP.... including right here.
Sounds like a hell of an inferiority complex to me.
Let me save you some time, effort, and money. IT ISN'T. No matter how much you might not want to hear it, the C5/C6 is a better platform in every quantifiable way. Period. No matter what you do to a C4, a comparably modified C5/C6 will ALWAYS be better. It isn't an insult. It is a plain and simple fact backed by an infinite amount of data that the C5/C6 chassis is a better design than the C4.
The C4 was a great car in it's time and when you consider that it is now an almost 30 year old design it is damn impressive how well it has withstood the test of time. The C5/C6 is better. As it should be. Just like the C4 was an improvement over the C3. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the C7 will be better still.
In regards to QUANTIFIABLE performance characteristics, C5/C6 > C4. Get over it.
You say that the C4 is equal to the best C5? Let's take this 1 for example owned and driven by Danny Popp (Raftracer on the forum)
For reference, it is over 10 seconds faster per lap than my 500hp C4 track car on the VIR full course. 10 seconds. That means he laps me on a 3.27 mile long road course in less than 11 laps. I'm curious as to what you think it would take to make a C4 that fast.
I'll tell you what. Search through the C5 and C6 sections and see how many threads there are bashing C4s. Go now. I'll wait.
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.
.
.
What? You didn't see any? How odd. Now, look through the C4 section and see how many of them start ripping on the newer cars with people telling why they would ever own 1.
Lookie there... it happens NONSTOP.... including right here.
Sounds like a hell of an inferiority complex to me.
Let me save you some time, effort, and money. IT ISN'T. No matter how much you might not want to hear it, the C5/C6 is a better platform in every quantifiable way. Period. No matter what you do to a C4, a comparably modified C5/C6 will ALWAYS be better. It isn't an insult. It is a plain and simple fact backed by an infinite amount of data that the C5/C6 chassis is a better design than the C4.
The C4 was a great car in it's time and when you consider that it is now an almost 30 year old design it is damn impressive how well it has withstood the test of time. The C5/C6 is better. As it should be. Just like the C4 was an improvement over the C3. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the C7 will be better still.
In regards to QUANTIFIABLE performance characteristics, C5/C6 > C4. Get over it.
You say that the C4 is equal to the best C5? Let's take this 1 for example owned and driven by Danny Popp (Raftracer on the forum)
For reference, it is over 10 seconds faster per lap than my 500hp C4 track car on the VIR full course. 10 seconds. That means he laps me on a 3.27 mile long road course in less than 11 laps. I'm curious as to what you think it would take to make a C4 that fast.
10-14-2012, 04:42 PM
#38
Race Director
