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Old 10-02-2012, 10:10 AM
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hi guys,new around here,since nobody makes aftermarket support for us c4 guys i thought i would try helping us out.i have many plans i will make but the first project is a rear diffuser for the c4..i already have one on my car and it looks great..right now i have very limited pictures but im getting more for you guys..how many of us c4 guys would be interested in something like this???? heres just a tease

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I would!
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I agree. I really wish we had some more support in the C4 community as far as mods go like a rear diffuser. On the same subject, heres the one I just finished up a couple months back. I love it. Entirely made out of fiberglass with a 3 ply carboard skeleton.

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That looks really good!
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Are you guys doing this for cosmetic purposes or looking for actual downforce? The two pictured are too far off the ground to be effective. A real diffuser will make street driving hard without knocking it off.

In order to make downforce the diffuser has to start around the middle of the car, or at least in front of the differential, and then gradually open up to the back. From a fuctionallity stand point the two pictured here are just THIS with some fins on it for looks. While they will keep air from building up inside the bumper, they are not performing the functions of a diffuser to make downforce.

Race teams spend thousands of dollars, and tremendous amounts of time to get the angle right, fin size and locations, etc. etc. Without that knowledge you may actually hurt the aero balance of the car by guessing.
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Are you guys doing this for cosmetic purposes or looking for actual downforce? The two pictured are too far off the ground to be effective. A real diffuser will make street driving hard without knocking it off.

In order to make downforce the diffuser has to start around the middle of the car, or at least in front of the differential, and then gradually open up to the back. From a fuctionallity stand point the two pictured here are just THIS with some fins on it for looks. While they will keep air from building up inside the bumper, they are not performing the functions of a diffuser to make downforce.

Race teams spend thousands of dollars, and tremendous amounts of time to get the angle right, fin size and locations, etc. etc. Without that knowledge you may actually hurt the aero balance of the car by guessing.
im not making these to make your car a full blown race car..it will help channel air coming from underneath your car.might not be as effective as a race teams for a purpose built race car but im sure it will help our corvettes at speed some..i have it starting at the exhaust pipes around where the flat bottom of the car ends..i do like the looks too..look at all the kits made out there for street cars from new zr1 to little mitsubishi evos and there not nearly as functional as this one and most are just the rear bumper with it molded in...im making these for the mild street car to the weekend auto X guys,and it keeps the rear tire which i think is a plus
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It looks like that can go on in addition to the spare tire assembly?

Kubs, I was wondering if I would see any difference at the drag track with my plate on there. I trapped almost 117 and I didn't see enough difference from last time to say it helped. NASA Road America is this weekend, I'll be sure to inspect any data to see if there is a benefit.
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[QUOTE=killergsxr1;1581974691]hi guys,new around here,since nobody makes aftermarket support for us c4 guys i thought i would try helping us out.

Yes. I used to complain about the lack of support for C4 products. Then I designed some products at great financial expense. In the end, C4 owners don't seem to desire the aftermarket products that civics, mustangs and other mid priced cars enjoy. I was even considering making several additional products for C4s after my headlight design, but based on feedback, I may cater to C5s.
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Originally Posted by Kubs
In order to make downforce the diffuser has to start around the middle of the car, or at least in front of the differential, and then gradually open up to the back. While they will keep air from building up inside the bumper, they are not performing the functions of a diffuser to make downforce.

Race teams spend thousands of dollars, and tremendous amounts of time to get the angle right, fin size and locations, etc. etc. Without that knowledge you may actually hurt the aero balance of the car by guessing.
Yep. This goes along with everything I've read while doing my own researching on diffusers.
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interesting
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Interested.
Attachment? Is the spare tire required? Or will this fit without the spare?
Expected pricing?

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May not do much but it looks great.
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Originally Posted by crzydrumer14
I agree. I really wish we had some more support in the C4 community as far as mods go like a rear diffuser. On the same subject, heres the one I just finished up a couple months back. I love it. Entirely made out of fiberglass with a 3 ply carboard skeleton.

I'm not sure what I'm missing here, but all I see is a shadow.
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His diffuser is in-between the mufflers and is painted black.
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I like your diffuser and welcome to the forum.
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Originally Posted by Aardwolf
Kubs, I was wondering if I would see any difference at the drag track with my plate on there. I trapped almost 117 and I didn't see enough difference from last time to say it helped. NASA Road America is this weekend, I'll be sure to inspect any data to see if there is a benefit.
Interesting.... I guess perhaps not as much air gets trapped up there as we think. RA will give you some good data if it helps for sure.
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heres a pic of it coated,there are mounting brackets that arent pictured but i wanted to give you all a look at what it looks like out of the car



i think i will be making a version for use with the spare tire and a version without
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:58 AM
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Would the diffuser for without the spare tire still work with the spare tire delete bracket?
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You'll need to become a Suppoorting Vendor in order to peddle your wares here.

Nice looking diffuser, BTW.
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Originally Posted by killergsxr1
hi guys,new around here,since nobody makes aftermarket support for us c4 guys i thought i would try helping us out.i have many plans i will make but the first project is a rear diffuser for the c4..i already have one on my car and it looks great..right now i have very limited pictures but im getting more for you guys..how many of us c4 guys would be interested in something like this???? heres just a tease

Looks great! just recently started a new thread in Tech & Performance. Aero Improvements. Hope you join us for technical winter projects, for us guys up north. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...post1582004775


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