What year c4 is the best
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The biggest drawback to an LTx is the limitation to build a very large CID motor. Other than that, the technology is so much better. That doesn't sound like an issue to your buddy anyway based on your observations in post 1.
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If you buy a C4 one thing is a must...buy a road service contract. When you need it...and you will, make sure they send a flat bed tow. Anything else can cost big bucks bodywork. Oh, and by the way...if you get an L98 with the original multitec injectors get them yanked out and replaced with Bosch. .it will save a lot of frustration. And lastly, find a good tech BEFORE you need him so you can tell the tow truck guy where to take it. Good luck.
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Friz, that's priceless and it's the truth! The 87' was 'bubbafied' beyond belief! It started life as the company car for the local Harley Davidson dealer (where I'm sure, it was 'cared for' , because the dark blue C6 the owner's wife is driving around is always dirty).
Then it went through a couple of more owners before getting to my wife. And the shops that worked on it were total f*cking idiots, because when I opened the clamshell, the ignition wires were all zip-tied together on both sides, and that was just the start!
Some FOOL removed the ignition wire loom holders, or the metal tabs that were bolted to the heads, so you couldn't route the wires correctly. Chevrolet bolted these on the bare heads, they had to, because doing it after the fact was a superb exercise in frustration!
The bolts go on from underneath and the hard metal oxygen line runs right in front of where your fingers would conveniently go, so you held the metal loom tab with one hand and the very top of your fingertips on the bolt, so you can fit it behind the oxygen line. That leaves you 1/64 of an inch to try and turn the bolt, just to start it, with your hand upside down in a contorted position and hoping you don't drop it down the black hole of 'never see that bolt again'!
It took me twenty minutes to start some of those bolts! I cursed the a-hole that removed those looms. I hoped that when they died, there was a special place in car-mechanic Hell, where a horny Satan would eagerly await them. Of course, I had to order the loom holders from a Corvette salvage yard, along with the bolts, but it's all good now and that's just ONE of the stupid things I found on the 87'. Like, why would someone mount the evap canister upside down?
Yeah, stay the hell away from a 'bubbafied' Corvette! Or you might just go !
Then it went through a couple of more owners before getting to my wife. And the shops that worked on it were total f*cking idiots, because when I opened the clamshell, the ignition wires were all zip-tied together on both sides, and that was just the start!
Some FOOL removed the ignition wire loom holders, or the metal tabs that were bolted to the heads, so you couldn't route the wires correctly. Chevrolet bolted these on the bare heads, they had to, because doing it after the fact was a superb exercise in frustration!
The bolts go on from underneath and the hard metal oxygen line runs right in front of where your fingers would conveniently go, so you held the metal loom tab with one hand and the very top of your fingertips on the bolt, so you can fit it behind the oxygen line. That leaves you 1/64 of an inch to try and turn the bolt, just to start it, with your hand upside down in a contorted position and hoping you don't drop it down the black hole of 'never see that bolt again'!
It took me twenty minutes to start some of those bolts! I cursed the a-hole that removed those looms. I hoped that when they died, there was a special place in car-mechanic Hell, where a horny Satan would eagerly await them. Of course, I had to order the loom holders from a Corvette salvage yard, along with the bolts, but it's all good now and that's just ONE of the stupid things I found on the 87'. Like, why would someone mount the evap canister upside down?
Yeah, stay the hell away from a 'bubbafied' Corvette! Or you might just go !
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That's why I usually walk away from C4's that have been modified from original. Don't like fixing someone else's problems they created. My '93 is stock and has been trouble free (knock on fiberglass).
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i've had a c4 (90) and a c5 (02) and they were both the worst cars i've owned in 30 years of driving (save for the '73 datsun b110 i had back in '80). the '90 more so, as it was too slow for a modern sports car
the C4 being older, you're all too likely to sink thousands $$ every year in maintenance and upkeep. GM build cheap cars, and these were built cheap. with that kind of money, you'd think you were maintaining a $75,000 car. you keep sinking money in, all the while it just ages at an accelerating rate, and book value gets closer & closer to $0.
the C4 being older, you're all too likely to sink thousands $$ every year in maintenance and upkeep. GM build cheap cars, and these were built cheap. with that kind of money, you'd think you were maintaining a $75,000 car. you keep sinking money in, all the while it just ages at an accelerating rate, and book value gets closer & closer to $0.
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I not going to say I disagree with this choice (even the color ).
Seriously, any well taken care of early or late C4 looks great out on the road. I do agree with the comment that one is likely to have fewer problems with a stock version, and that later cars have more bugs worked out.
Seriously, any well taken care of early or late C4 looks great out on the road. I do agree with the comment that one is likely to have fewer problems with a stock version, and that later cars have more bugs worked out.
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The early C4's are even fewer in number, as so many of them ended up in one of the following order:
a) The Barn
b) The Backyard
c) The back 40
d) The Salvage Yard
e) Still on the road, but looking like hell
f) The rare, actually good looking early C4!
a) The Barn
b) The Backyard
c) The back 40
d) The Salvage Yard
e) Still on the road, but looking like hell
f) The rare, actually good looking early C4!
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From reading several of these posts, the early C4s get more than their share of criticism.
I bought my '86 Coupe new. It now has about 80k miles and still running good. I have had to replace the following:
Mufflers, alternator, shocks, ECM, tires (on my third set), Y exhaust pipe, rear carpeting, antenna mast, MAF burn off relays, spark plugs and wires and starter.
I had to have the hood repainted and the radio repaired.
But the Corvette is 26 years old! Being the original owner, I don't have to worry about getting something from past owners who modified it or did Bubba repairs.
I bought my '86 Coupe new. It now has about 80k miles and still running good. I have had to replace the following:
Mufflers, alternator, shocks, ECM, tires (on my third set), Y exhaust pipe, rear carpeting, antenna mast, MAF burn off relays, spark plugs and wires and starter.
I had to have the hood repainted and the radio repaired.
But the Corvette is 26 years old! Being the original owner, I don't have to worry about getting something from past owners who modified it or did Bubba repairs.
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i've had a c4 (90) and a c5 (02) and they were both the worst cars i've owned in 30 years of driving (save for the '73 datsun b110 i had back in '80). the '90 more so, as it was too slow for a modern sports car
the C4 being older, you're all too likely to sink thousands $$ every year in maintenance and upkeep. GM build cheap cars, and these were built cheap. with that kind of money, you'd think you were maintaining a $75,000 car. you keep sinking money in, all the while it just ages at an accelerating rate, and book value gets closer & closer to $0.
the C4 being older, you're all too likely to sink thousands $$ every year in maintenance and upkeep. GM build cheap cars, and these were built cheap. with that kind of money, you'd think you were maintaining a $75,000 car. you keep sinking money in, all the while it just ages at an accelerating rate, and book value gets closer & closer to $0.
I liked my 90 but yes compared to todays cars it is a tad bit slower but 95% of us just drive it like any other car, it's just more fun to drive.
I put a ton of money into mine but it was just normal stuff the PO neglected to do, exhaust, injectors, etc.
AND I like my FRC, but I will be the first to say the C4 was a much better built car. Not as fast, but better built.
To answer the op's question, the 96 LT4 is probably the best overall C4. But any of them are fine.
You can go to any car forum and start reading and when you're finished, you wouldn't want any of them, it doesn't matter what car or truck it is.
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