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Old 08-20-2009, 06:31 PM   #1
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Default Is This 1 of 50 1986 Malcolm Konner Real?

A buddy of mine has a a 1986 Malcolm Konner Commemorative Edition C4 Corvette. Granted these are not huge dollar collectibles but rare GM sanctioned provenance is still provenance & if I'm going to help him sell it then accuracy is key on my part. I'm not telling ANYBODY its a real one until its verified. Once thats done, I can take on the nastiest of internet haters saying its a clone with undisputed facts.

Here is the VIN
1G1YY07 coupe
8 motor
9 check digit
G year
5 KY
108288 production sequence

Door code numbers:
10/85
3756LB
1704KG
1799LB
817KG
1557LB
888KG

Supposedly this is car #39 but I don't know how to verify such an obscure thing. With only 50 cars it's not like there is much of a fan club or even a website with a complete history, just bits & pieces of info here & there.

I know the RPO code for an Malcolm Konner is 4001ZA but I don't see that number on the car anywhere. How do I verify that this car is real?

IF it is, then its an auto & they made 30 autos & 20 sticks. That cuts it down to 1 of 30. It supposedly has the suspension package that only went on 1/2 & that would cut it down again to 1 of 15. It's easy enough to figure out if its an auto or not but not sure about the springs.

Any info or links to info is appreciated.

Feel free to ask questions about it, you'll probably never get another chance to get a close look a one.

A quick video look at the car.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/R...ner_702500.htm

Back up video link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sUzbxczC2A

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Old 08-20-2009, 06:41 PM   #2
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:46 PM   #3
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what are the RPO codes. there should be a RPO code for that.
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Old 08-20-2009, 07:10 PM   #4
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Why not order the build sheet and window sticker from NCM? Might help sell it too.
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Old 08-20-2009, 07:11 PM   #5
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At some point it may have been worth a little more than the average 86 but just by the pictures its not worth any more than your average clapped out 86.
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Old 08-20-2009, 07:15 PM   #6
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I tend to think it's worth more than the exact same car without the RPO code. Not much but....why would it not be worth more?
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Old 08-20-2009, 07:58 PM   #7
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Why not order the build sheet and window sticker from NCM? Might help sell it too.


You could also contact the dealer, now Paramus Chevrolet, in Paramus NJ. They may have kept records of the cars since they are the only dealer to have been honored with a special edition Corvette.
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Old 08-20-2009, 08:20 PM   #8
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Default Malcom Konner

The car looks stock. The motor looks stock L98. Looks like a local car dealer bought some badges and stuck them on there. With the way the engine and interior looks, I wouldnt consider buying it anyway, malcom or not.

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Old 08-20-2009, 08:23 PM   #9
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Rare does not always equal more value. Looks like a pretty beat up 86 Vette with a less than attractive paint job to me. I don't see anything special about the car. It may be 1 of 15 with this "special" appearance package, but there were a 12,821 of 86 Vettes made with the performance suspension package so there's a bunch out there. Also, this special edition package was only a $500 option, for what, a silver and black paint job and a dash plaque? Plus it has the wrong wheels, what else is not original? I think I would rather have one of the 4 copper metallic cars made in 86 instead.

I don't see much added value here, IMHO.........

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Old 08-20-2009, 08:38 PM   #10
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value is up to the buyer on that, if you can pawn off the name on someone, then it is worth more, but the collectible integrity, seems to be lost with after market parts, and lack of care for the vehicle.
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Old 08-20-2009, 08:46 PM   #11
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You could also contact the dealer, now Paramus Chevrolet, in Paramus NJ. They may have kept records of the cars since they are the only dealer to have been honored with a special edition Corvette.
They probably wouldn't know. I bought my C6 from the old Konnor dealership. They still sell and service plenty of Corvettes, but it's a completely different ownership.

I'd say, maybe the NCM might know.
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:03 PM   #12
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According to the Black Book the color code should be "spec" since it was a non standard color combo.
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:11 PM   #13
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Why not order the build sheet and window sticker from NCM? Might help sell it too.
Both of those document will have the name of the dealer that received the car. And the build sheet would have the RPO code. Also check the Service Parts Identification sticker that will be found under the console lid. The 4001ZA code should appear there.

As far as suspension, the only option was Z51. That would appear on the console decal, the build sheet and window sticker. Z51 cars has an auxiliary fan cooler mounted in front of the radiator. Also look for small angled braces at the ends of the front crossmember. Other Z51 indicators are an oil cooler above the oil filter and quick steering (2 turns lock to lock).

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Door code numbers:
10/85
3756LB
1704KG
1799LB
817KG
1557LB
The 10/85 is the month the car was built; the 08288 in the sequence number sounds right for the month. The rest of those values are the total shipping weight (3765lbs) and the others are the front and rear weights in both lbs and kilograms.

The M-K badge looks worn so I would think that it was something that belongs on the car. The pic of the rear doesn't show the M-K dealership sticker that was applied to the lower left corner of the fascia. Maybe the car was damaged and repaired and no sticker was available.
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Maybe I am missing something here, what is this M-K thing and what/why would it be more valuable?
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:25 PM   #15
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Maybe I am missing something here, what is this M-K thing and what/why would it be more valuable?
I looked it up tonight, frankly I had never heard of one. It looks like it's an appearance package, special silver champagne over black paint, graphite interior and some badges. Maybe I'm missing something though......
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Not a lot other than a special paint scheme and emblems with 50 produced. A collector may pay a little more.

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"Fifty "Malcolm Konner Commemorative Edition" 1986 Corvettes were built in a special arrangement honoring the New Jersey Chevrolet dealership's founder, Malcolm Konner. Each Corvette had special two-tone paint schemes, Silver Beige over Black, coded "spec".Window stickers reflected 4OO1ZA as the RPO, and a $500 cost for MALCOLM KOONER SP.EDIT.PAI. All were coups, twenty with manual transmissions, thirty with automatics. All had graphite leather interiors. One was retrofitted with a Callaway twin-turbo engine."

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I worked for them back in this time. Malcolm Konner Chevrolet was the largest Corvette dealer in the country back in the 70's thru 1991 when they sold out the business. Chevrolet made 50 of those special editions and they all were caravaned back from Bowling Green to the dealership. The Konner family put about 10 of them away in storage in CT.
The RPO code that you speak of is 4001ZA It was only a $500 option but it was the only vette ever produced recognizing a very special man/dealer that had passed away a few years earlier. All were cpe's, 20 manual's, 30 Auto. All had Graphite leather interior. Although they were not built in sequence, I remember the day they arrived back at the dealership. It basically was a special two tone paint job from the factory...silver beige over black. One of them became the very first Callaway twin turbo engine conversion. Zora and his wife visited the dealership many times over the years as they were very friendly with Malcolm and Florence Konner.

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Old 08-20-2009, 11:37 PM   #18
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RPO 4001ZA Malcolm Konner Chevrolet Special Edition paint option for coupe
special = Silver Beige and Black (used on 50 "Commemorative Edition" Corvettes made for Malcolm Konner Chevrolet of New Jersey)
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I remember driving by Malcolm Konner back in the 80's and 90's. On the second floor they always had a beutiful 53 Vette that you were able to see on Rt17. Those were the days. The Konner edition is nothing more than paint and an emblem.
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Old 08-21-2009, 01:52 AM   #20
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The badges and everything looks original. I doubt anyone would bother faking one of those.
But, like so many have said, probably not worth much over what a normal '86 would be.
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