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Old 11-23-2007, 04:55 PM
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i know this is not necessarily corvette related but....
I bought an escort 8500 x50 a couple of weeks ago, not that i speed or anything but just in case. Well last night on the way home it went off and about a 1/2 second later there is the hi-po crossing the median to say hi! from the research ive done this is supposed to be one of the best on the market. Any one else using these p.o.s's am i wrong in expecting more than a 1/2 second warning? Is the valentine1 any better?
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:19 PM
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:33 PM
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I believe the Police Officer was using an instant on radar. He was not sending out a signal until your detector went off.
Old 11-23-2007, 06:36 PM
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According to Escort the X50 is supposed to detect instant-on and POP radars.

Have you received any warnings from it when you see police on the road or waiting with laser?
Old 11-23-2007, 06:39 PM
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I went with the Valentine One 3 weeks ago after much research. The Valentine One is the one to have hands down. The combination of the Bogey Counter and the direction which you are being tracked is awesome. The best $400.00 I spent in a long time.

Take your escort back and get the Vatentine One. You will not be disappointed!
Old 11-23-2007, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PAINTER MAN
I believe the Police Officer was using an instant on radar. He was not sending out a signal until your detector went off.
This is exactly what happened.

I can't tell you how many people I've stopped for speeding who had radar detectors. Just because you have one does not mean you're immune from getting caught. The likelihood is greatly lessened when you have one, but when you have a cop that is not lazy and simply doesn't have his radar unit resting on the dash aimed at oncoming cars, your chances of being stopped are dramatically increased.

When the cop is holding the radar unit in his hand and presses the on button/switch when he sees the speeding car, it's too late. You've already been caught. Your reaction time cannot beat the electronic brain of the radar unit. If you get caught by such a cop, I suggest that you become the nicest person in the world. Friendly demeanor will go far in such a situation.
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Originally Posted by 85 500 horse
This is exactly what happened.

I can't tell you how many people I've stopped for speeding who had radar detectors. Just because you have one does not mean you're immune from getting caught. The likelihood is greatly lessened when you have one, but when you have a cop that is not lazy and simply doesn't have his radar unit resting on the dash aimed at oncoming cars, your chances of being stopped are dramatically increased.

When the cop is holding the radar unit in his hand and presses the on button/switch when he sees the speeding car, it's too late. You've already been caught. Your reaction time cannot beat the electronic brain of the radar unit. If you get caught by such a cop, I suggest that you become the nicest person in the world. Friendly demeanor will go far in such a situation.
There is no $400 gizmo you can buy that will defeat an instant on radar or laser detector. They will at best tell you that you have just been clocked then you cross your fingers and hope for the best. The police do this for a living and you are no match if you are over the limit and do not see him up ahead which is usually the case, especially at night. These guys are pros and will always have the upper hand. The only time you will be forewarned is if he clocks someone ahead of you or is lazy and leaves it on. If you are pulled over and the LEO sees that you have a radar detector, it is usually an instant ticket. Ask me how I know. So I got smart, gave up on the radar detector I used in my 20s and now I keep it within 10 miles of the limit, go with the flow of traffic, and try to stay out of the left lane as much as possible and have not had a ticket in about 10 years.
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Originally Posted by 96polovette
There is no $400 gizmo you can buy that will defeat an instant on radar or laser detector. They will at best tell you that you have just been clocked then you cross your fingers and hope for the best. The police do this for a living and you are no match if you are over the limit and do not see him up ahead which is usually the case, especially at night. These guys are pros and will always have the upper hand. The only time you will be forewarned is if he clocks someone ahead of you or is lazy and leaves it on. If you are pulled over and the LEO sees that you have a radar detector, it is usually an instant ticket. Ask me how I know. So I got smart, gave up on the radar detector I used in my 20s and now I keep it within 10 miles of the limit, go with the flow of traffic, and try to stay out of the left lane as much as possible and have not had a ticket in about 10 years.
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Why are cops more likely to give you a ticket if they see your radar detector?

Old 11-23-2007, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Nzzz
Why are cops more likely to give you a ticket if they see your radar detector?

You have to ask?
Old 11-23-2007, 08:38 PM
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In my experience, radar detectors=false sense of security. I received more tickets when I had a radar dectector in my cars than when I didn't have one.
Old 11-23-2007, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Nzzz
Why are cops more likely to give you a ticket if they see your radar detector?
IMHO, obviously you are trying to beat the police at their own game.
That's why I have a cordless Escort detector. I only use it when I intend to go over the limit, and if I get pulled over, I turn it off and ditch it under the seat.

My last ticket was in 1996. I got pulled over about 8 times since and no tickets. I agree with the post below. I'm one heckova nice guy when I get pulled over. Diplomacy wins.

If you get caught by such a cop, I suggest that you become the nicest person in the world. Friendly demeanor will go far in such a situation.
Old 11-23-2007, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 85 500 horse
This is exactly what happened.

I can't tell you how many people I've stopped for speeding who had radar detectors. Just because you have one does not mean you're immune from getting caught. The likelihood is greatly lessened when you have one, but when you have a cop that is not lazy and simply doesn't have his radar unit resting on the dash aimed at oncoming cars, your chances of being stopped are dramatically increased.

When the cop is holding the radar unit in his hand and presses the on button/switch when he sees the speeding car, it's too late. You've already been caught. Your reaction time cannot beat the electronic brain of the radar unit. If you get caught by such a cop, I suggest that you become the nicest person in the world. Friendly demeanor will go far in such a situation.
It was at night, but he was driving on the opposite side of the highway. It was a texas dps officer. Im always nice when pulled over because its not the officers fault i have a lead foot, so no need to be ugly. I guess im just un aware of how the radar guns work, or how the detectors are supposed to work? o well doesnt matter know any ways i have a ticket to go along with my new radar detector!
Old 11-23-2007, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by finally_got_it
o well doesnt matter know any ways i have a ticket to go along with my new radar detector!
I don't call them a "ticket," I call them a "fast driving certificate." Seriously, sometimes I'm just going so fast that I don't have time to look at my speed-o, before the officer tells me how fast I was going. A ticket implies I wont do it again! And I'm glad with my title of them, I've only had one officer show me exactly how fast they saw me going once.

Note: I'm joking above, in the middle parts. I'd turn in your certificate along with your receipt for a refund!
Old 11-23-2007, 10:56 PM
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I use V1, it had paid for itself many many times over. Nuff said.



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Old 11-24-2007, 01:54 AM
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I've got a Beltronics Pro ??, it works. You just gots to remember, Radar is Line of Sight. Hills and curves will give your detector fits (and you get tickets-or whatever).

Use common sense and stay in the right lane whenever you can and don't figure on running 100 mph all the time. Even if the cop doesn't have his radar on, if he sees you passing a car like it's standing still, he knows you are speeding.

I've had cheap detectors and they ain't worth anything. I've had this one about a year and I've finally come to trust it. BUT, I still use some common sense.

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I have two of these escort 8500 x50's, and love them!

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Old 11-24-2007, 09:49 AM
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I have all three models in my four vehicles. Passport X50 in a 03Marauder,a regular Passport in a 05 Z71Tahoe, a Bell in the 03 Jeep Rubicon, and a Valentine in the 92 convertable Vette. Oh and a Cobra I gave my sister (junk). I will swear they are all very similar in the warning time. The arrows(Valentine) being the only thing above the others. I have still gotten tickets with all. YOU CAN"T BEAT INSTANT ON OR LAZER...
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I do not make up my mind if I am going to give a ticket until I get to the drivers door, if I see a radar dector it's an automatic ticket no questions asked, except license, registration and proof of insurance!!!!
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Originally Posted by 85 500 horse
This is exactly what happened.

I can't tell you how many people I've stopped for speeding who had radar detectors. Just because you have one does not mean you're immune from getting caught. The likelihood is greatly lessened when you have one, but when you have a cop that is not lazy and simply doesn't have his radar unit resting on the dash aimed at oncoming cars, your chances of being stopped are dramatically increased.

When the cop is holding the radar unit in his hand and presses the on button/switch when he sees the speeding car, it's too late. You've already been caught. Your reaction time cannot beat the electronic brain of the radar unit. If you get caught by such a cop, I suggest that you become the nicest person in the world. Friendly demeanor will go far in such a situation.
I agree...It doesn't matter what brand of radar detector you use in this situation. The thing is you have to evaluate is the tactics you use and the situational awareness you maintain if you feel the need to exceed the speed limit. A radar detector isn't a magic device which protects you perfectly from Police radar no matter who makes it and no matter what technical capabilities it has. If you speed you're at risk. The higher the speed the higher the risk of detection and reaction from Law Enforcement.


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