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Old 06-21-2007, 09:34 PM
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My recently purchased 96 is 100% stock. The stock exhaust flows plenty for the LT4, but it is EXTREMELY quite. Since it is stock, I am having trouble bringing myself to scrap the exhaust system. If I get muffler elims, can the old mufflers be re-installed without anyone noticing? Would it hurt the value since this is truly a one of a kind car (my guess is no, but thought I'd ask some experts here)?

Also, if I do this, I can get it done at my mechanics shop for $75.00 (3" with tips). Is this a good price? Would it give the car a better sound, but without the resonance problems?
Old 06-21-2007, 09:58 PM
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YES! Its cheap and sounds very aggressive. Check out some of the clips over in the Tech section.
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It will be louder but not as loud as you might think. If you cut off your mufflers and weld in eliminators you can put the mufflers back but it will not be invisible. The eliminators sound good on a stock cammed LTX with cats.
Old 06-21-2007, 10:37 PM
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TIME OUT!!!

L98 exhaust and LT1/4 exhaust respond differently to eliminators.

I hated the result on my LT1. The drone and resonance about killed me. If you have an automatic, it would make it worse.
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I did elims on my 92 LT1 and love the sound. Like the original poster, I wanted a more aggressive sound.
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I did eliminators on my LT1 auto trans. The sound was not bad, I loved the aggressive tone. But, at about 1400 to 1600 rpms, when the torque converter locked up, there was a drone. I did not like that so I ended up shifting down to keep the revs up. I've heard that chambered eliminators are better for that.

Also, when mine were put on the hangers were too long, so when the system heated up and expanded, the hangers hit the frame. That was bad, I had to go in and cut the hangers shorter so if you have it done, make sure there is at least 3/4" between the hangers and the frame.
Old 06-21-2007, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Leftoverture
I did eliminators on my LT1 auto trans. The sound was not bad, I loved the aggressive tone. But, at about 1400 to 1600 rpms, when the torque converter locked up, there was a drone. I did not like that so I ended up shifting down to keep the revs up. I've heard that chambered eliminators are better for that.

Also, when mine were put on the hangers were too long, so when the system heated up and expanded, the hangers hit the frame. That was bad, I had to go in and cut the hangers shorter so if you have it done, make sure there is at least 3/4" between the hangers and the frame.
The drone does not bother me at all Tim, alas I am hard of hearing.

Putting plugs and wires on your ex vette is a total bitch but lucky for me (or unlucky as many may percieve) my 43 old son is back home with us and is quite helpful, since I don't have good hand strength anymore.

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Old 06-22-2007, 08:16 AM
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I have muffler elims on my 96 LT-1. Me and the Wife love the sound.
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93 LT1 6 speed and I just love the sound!
Old 06-22-2007, 09:27 AM
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I have a 92 A4 and installed elims when the car was bone stock. It had no effect on power, as measured by dozens of runs at the track, and had a very nice aggressive sound. I kept the original mufflers, which was a good idea. When I installed a cam, the sound became unbearable, so I re-installed the originals.
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Originally Posted by 4Ever21
YES! Its cheap and sounds very aggressive. Check out some of the clips over in the Tech section.
I waited FOUR YEARS to do this to my car and should have done it as soon as I bought the car. Stoopid me....
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You have a fantastic car, why go cheap now? Spend the money and install Corsa, you won't regret it. JMHO
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Thanks for the comments folks!

MarkC4, Thanks for the compliment! The price is really not the issue, rather keeping the car original vs modifying it. Would changing the whole system decrease the value of the car? I just hate to mod the car if it is all stock right now just to get a better engine sound if it will hurt the value.
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Yes it would to some people, others would like a car with flashy add-ons.
Back to elims. I figure they are good if your idea of fun is cruising Sonic or Taco Bell.
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The people that would consider the car devalued with a Corsa system would be few and far between, IMO but a lot more would dislike the muffler elims. Also, the stock system comes off as a complete unit, so if you have the room you can always keep it for reinstallation. Many do.
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Originally Posted by Andrew
Thanks for the comments folks!

MarkC4, Thanks for the compliment! The price is really not the issue, rather keeping the car original vs modifying it. Would changing the whole system decrease the value of the car? I just hate to mod the car if it is all stock right now just to get a better engine sound if it will hurt the value.
I must be missing something here. A good muffler shop would cut the pipe very close to the muffler with a sawzall (not a torch). If you change your mind have the mufflers welded right back on. Personally I have been running eliminators for about 1 1/2 years. Love the sound, seems the radio doesn't play as loud as it used to though. On the plus side I don't hear the wife so much either. Huh? Say what?

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I get a buzz right at 2000 rpm. It doesn't bother me any more, though it would be nice to have it done away with. The Ruby had straight pipes and never a resonance buzz. I live 12 hours away from the shop that did the Ruby's pipes, and the shop here that did my Obsidian's pipes was at a loss of what to do. They were cheap, $75. My tips are temporary. I want tips like amminich's. Maybe if I can get the tips changed, I can find a shop that can do something to eliminate the buzz.
I don't like mufflers. I even have muffler elims on my truck, dualed out with glass packs. Ok that's sorta mufflers, but it sounds so goooood. They were my mama's day present from my babydaddy.

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Old 06-23-2007, 10:47 AM
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After thinking about this, is there a good replacement muffler that would look stock, sound great, and not have any resonance problems?
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The Magnaflow cat back is really just a pair of mufflers, some say they don't get resonance some say they do. Some like the sound, some don't. I'd try and get with someone who has them and take a ride before installing.
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Originally Posted by Andrew
After thinking about this, is there a good replacement muffler that would look stock, sound great, and not have any resonance problems?
Check Mid America and Corvette Central. They have large muffler inventoies. Some people don't like large stainless expensive mufflers. I happen to be one of them.


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