No more " Will my [insert C4 engine rpo here] take a new mustang: 5.0 returns
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No more " Will my [insert C4 engine rpo here] take a new mustang: 5.0 returns
Anyone else check the numbers from the latest car mags? Impressive output from the 5.0. Even the V6 is getting in on the action with a 5.1 second 0-60 mph time. 5.0 was putting down early ZR-1 times and mph traps in the quarter. I for one welcome it, good to see the big 3 are continue to offer such cars.
Also noted the interior options for aluminum trim. Probably the fake plastic painted aluminum but if it's the real thing then props to Ford for offering these options on the side. I've never been an "interior makes or breaks the car" guy, but I was impressed by the option if it is indeed real brushed aluminum trimmings offered throughout the interior.
Also noted the interior options for aluminum trim. Probably the fake plastic painted aluminum but if it's the real thing then props to Ford for offering these options on the side. I've never been an "interior makes or breaks the car" guy, but I was impressed by the option if it is indeed real brushed aluminum trimmings offered throughout the interior.
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My wife and I were watching V and saw the commercial on the new 'stang last night. Pretty impressive numbers V6, over 300 hp and 31 mpg, looked pretty nice too. I wouldn't mind having one...
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St. Jude Donor '14-'15-'16-'17
ALL the car/truck manufacturers have been boosting the horsepower in their vehicles the last couple of years because that's what's selling right now. The Hemi in the new Dodge pickup is now producing 390 horsepower and 407ft of torque compared to 345 horse just a couple of years ago. It is amazing how the horsepower has increased but at the same time so has the miles per gallon.
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TODAY is the golden age of the Muscle / Pony / Sports car......not the 60's. Today's products are putting down performance the stuff 40 years ago could only dream of.....and they're doing it while putting down 30 mpg with the A/C blasting and a smooth idle.
These are great days we're living folks......
These are great days we're living folks......
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TODAY is the golden age of the Muscle / Pony / Sports car......not the 60's. Today's products are putting down performance the stuff 40 years ago could only dream of.....and they're doing it while putting down 30 mpg with the A/C blasting and a smooth idle.
These are great days we're living folks......
These are great days we're living folks......
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31mpg with the auto, 29 with the manual.
V6 cars run mid 13's in the 1/4 mile, so I'd beware of any new mustang in pretty much any C4 unless its modded. The V6's are dohc motor with variable cam timing. This would the "i" that Honda added to vtec motors in 2001. Vtec being variable valve lift and duration, "i" meaning intelligent, allowing a inner sliding cam gear to use pressurized oil injection to move the cam timing up to 50 degrees on the exaust side to vary overlap. The Ford system uses variable timing ability on both cams which led to a 10% increase in power.
Ford will do it and everyone calls it genius, Honda's done it for years and people make fun of it.
V6 cars run mid 13's in the 1/4 mile, so I'd beware of any new mustang in pretty much any C4 unless its modded. The V6's are dohc motor with variable cam timing. This would the "i" that Honda added to vtec motors in 2001. Vtec being variable valve lift and duration, "i" meaning intelligent, allowing a inner sliding cam gear to use pressurized oil injection to move the cam timing up to 50 degrees on the exaust side to vary overlap. The Ford system uses variable timing ability on both cams which led to a 10% increase in power.
Ford will do it and everyone calls it genius, Honda's done it for years and people make fun of it.
I think people are laughing at the bean cans that the Japanese makes used to offer- not the engine tech.
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haven't seen a car yet that can outrun my neighbor's hound in the first 100 yds, that does not mean i want to drive a pooch...stangs are geared
for 1/4 mile, that does not etc.
for 1/4 mile, that does not etc.
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Ive owned 3 mustangs over the years a 95 gt 5spd, 97 4.6 DOHC cobra, and a 2001 GT convertible 5 spd and all 3 where slow as ****. The cobra was of course the fastest but my stock 97 trans-am would run all over it any day of the week. Ive tired and tired and tried to like mustangs and can't do it.
Out of all three mustangs I owned I can only say 2 good things about them. #1 They sound great, #2 they are cheep as hell to build up. Performance parts can be picked up new and used EVERYWHERE.
Some imports would easily keep up with my mustangs if not take them. Mustangs are over hyped by redneck boys that have never drove a real car. I watched a old 1993 car & driver video on youtube that had Mario Andriette (sp) test drive a new 1994 z/28, 94 corvette, 94 Trans-am, and a 94 Mustang.
At the end of the test drive he commented that the biggest disappointment of the day was the Mustang. He said it had no power to it and felt like a family car. to quote "It was just a car, Nothing exciting about the drive"
The ONLY mustang worth owning is the 2003 Cobra.
4.6L DOHC with a twin screw supercharger, T56 6-speed and full IRS. Finally ford made a sports car it just took 39 years
Even the new "Super snake" is just gay. (best redneck voice) Yea boy I drive's me a Supper Snake Now, ittl take a vet.
BTW: Every person I bought my mustangs from all said the same thing "It will keep up with a vette"
Out of all three mustangs I owned I can only say 2 good things about them. #1 They sound great, #2 they are cheep as hell to build up. Performance parts can be picked up new and used EVERYWHERE.
Some imports would easily keep up with my mustangs if not take them. Mustangs are over hyped by redneck boys that have never drove a real car. I watched a old 1993 car & driver video on youtube that had Mario Andriette (sp) test drive a new 1994 z/28, 94 corvette, 94 Trans-am, and a 94 Mustang.
At the end of the test drive he commented that the biggest disappointment of the day was the Mustang. He said it had no power to it and felt like a family car. to quote "It was just a car, Nothing exciting about the drive"
The ONLY mustang worth owning is the 2003 Cobra.
4.6L DOHC with a twin screw supercharger, T56 6-speed and full IRS. Finally ford made a sports car it just took 39 years
Even the new "Super snake" is just gay. (best redneck voice) Yea boy I drive's me a Supper Snake Now, ittl take a vet.
BTW: Every person I bought my mustangs from all said the same thing "It will keep up with a vette"
Last edited by lushdrunk; 05-05-2010 at 04:33 PM.
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If a V6 mustang is pulling 305 hp and 280 ft-lb of torque, imagine what the C7 V8 is gonna do!!!!!
I know the C4 (LT1) can still take the stang due to the weight and gearing differences, but I am impressed!
I know the C4 (LT1) can still take the stang due to the weight and gearing differences, but I am impressed!
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Imagine 40 years ago carb 427 could make 500hp. All this technology, and we still don't have an affordable v8 that makes an awesome amount of power.
The cars of the 90's should have all been putting out what the zr1 was.
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Nothing, chevy is still abusing the after market crowd.
Imagine 40 years ago carb 427 could make 500hp. All this technology, and we still don't have an affordable v8 that makes an awesome amount of power.
The cars of the 90's should have all been putting out what the zr1 was.
Imagine 40 years ago carb 427 could make 500hp. All this technology, and we still don't have an affordable v8 that makes an awesome amount of power.
The cars of the 90's should have all been putting out what the zr1 was.
Also: I got to ask, what isn't affordable and highly supported about the LSx series of V8? You can build a truck engine into a 500hp 6 liter for not too much. You can buy a C6 that does 190 mph for less than the price of a duramax pickup.
Last edited by mike100; 05-05-2010 at 05:35 PM.
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I don't think there was as much pressure in the US to make engines more efficient, as there was say in Europe with much higher gas prices. So nowadays German V8s for example seem much more efficient. I think what America achieved was affordability and to some extent reliability. Look how many people are driving around in torquey V8s. You don't see that in many other places
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think outside the box and buy the mustang. I have little to no loyalty to any brand these days. I will say that I really do like my C4 a lot and in the real world, it would be hard for those 300 hp v6 pony cars to keep up with it in every situation, but 6 speed automatics do keep engines in the sweet spot.
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Couldn't agree more!!
TODAY is the golden age of the Muscle / Pony / Sports car......not the 60's. Today's products are putting down performance the stuff 40 years ago could only dream of.....and they're doing it while putting down 30 mpg with the A/C blasting and a smooth idle.
These are great days we're living folks......
These are great days we're living folks......
And, you shoulda heard the screaming that came from an LS6 driver when I dared to give cudos to Ford for their continued development of the DOHC V8s. As I said then, GM better revisit the DOHC concept in the Corvette, or risk getting left behind in the performance game as they have in the past! And, again...being a ZR-1 driver, I hate having to pour over Ford product web sites to pick up info and nuances regarding 4-valve, DOHC engine development!
What ever happened to that 465 hp supercharged Northstar????
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