LS1 SS or LT4 C4??
#21
wow, so surprising how many of us traded LS1's for LT4's let alone camaro SS's!
I still miss the top end RPM pull of the ls1... so smooth, you could just feel so much power! Lt4 has it good but doesnt throw me back in the seat, might just be the "car" also.
I do agree that its easier to launch a 6sp C4 than an f-body....
And to the gentleman beating Ls1's with a stock Lt1.... the ls1's are either running on 6 cylinders or they cannot drive for anything.
I still miss the top end RPM pull of the ls1... so smooth, you could just feel so much power! Lt4 has it good but doesnt throw me back in the seat, might just be the "car" also.
I do agree that its easier to launch a 6sp C4 than an f-body....
And to the gentleman beating Ls1's with a stock Lt1.... the ls1's are either running on 6 cylinders or they cannot drive for anything.
#22
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I traded my 97 30th Anniversary Z28 on my LT4. I have to say I really enjoy the Corvette more than the Camaro. The handling is superior and the power is awesome. I also own a 98 C5 MN6 and it is definetley a quicker car stock vs stock. It depends on the money you want to spend but IMO you will find that owning a Corvette, no matter what year is more fun than owning an F-Body. In your particular case, you may be more happy with a higher mileage 97 Corvette. You can find them for 20K or less, you just have to look. On the flip side you can find an LT4 for 12K easy and have as much fun with it. I would say the only drawback to the C4 is getting in and out, the C5 is much easier to hop in and out of. Anyway, GL!
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Originally Posted by F1Fan
And a 3.07 is meant for fuel economy, not performance.
Actually I think that you will find that on your 95 the 3.07 is indeed the "performance" option ratio available from the factory.
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Originally Posted by OdinsRage
And to the gentleman beating Ls1's with a stock Lt1.... the ls1's are either running on 6 cylinders or they cannot drive for anything.
Mojo isnt joking. He's an avid drag racer. 12.9x with a stock LT1 is faster than %90 of the LS1 F body's are when stock.
Heck, the best my 99 m6 trans am ran was 13.50s at 103mph [2.01 60 foot] when %100 stock from the paper air filter to the exhaust tips.
Same exact track I ran 13.31 at 105mph in my LT4 car when it was stock from air filter to exhaust tips with a 1.99 60 foot time. LS1 cars are fast, but not all F bods are in the 12s stock like people think they are. The LT4 C4 will be just as fast as an SS when compared stock to stock. It may net respond quite as well to mods as an LS1 [nothing does] but it does pretty well. Its fairly easy to get em to 350rwhp with a few odds and ends. It might be a little easier and a little cheaper to get the SS to 350rwhp but its heavier and its rear end will snap once you put stickies on the back. The LT4 cars have a dana44 rear end that is usually good for 1.6x short times. Dont get me wrong, I like the F bods. I've had several of em but it depends on what you want out of the car.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Peabody
Actually I think that you will find that on your 95 the 3.07 is indeed the "performance" option ratio available from the factory.
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Originally Posted by F1Fan
Mine is a six speed, and the stock gear ratio is 3.45
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I believe 'ya. I had some older 2nd gens and older mustangs that were manuals with tall gears like that though. I guess 3.07's aren't bad for an auto.
#28
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No question, the Camaro SS is a fun car and great looking, too. But it is NOT a Corvette.
Don't try to apply logic in your choice. Which car pulls at your heart? That's the one to go with.
For me, the worst Corvette I ever owned was worlds better than when I owned no Corvette at all.
Don't try to apply logic in your choice. Which car pulls at your heart? That's the one to go with.
For me, the worst Corvette I ever owned was worlds better than when I owned no Corvette at all.
#29
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Originally Posted by F1Fan
Mine is a six speed, and the stock gear ratio is 3.45
notice the post below, this guys seems like he might understand it too.
"I believe 'ya. I had some older 2nd gens and older mustangs that were manuals with tall gears like that though. I guess 3.07's aren't bad for an auto."
back to the subject a lt4 or a ls1.....go for a LT series motor if you are after a 6sp well go ahead a make it a lt4 then I personally didn't notice the power diff from the lt1 under normal driving when I drove one but if you want a 6sp anyway might aswell get the lt4.
from my experiences I've never lost to a ls1 f-body and the lt1 f-bodys are nothing ET wise to the vettes. My 95 a4 3.07s runs 13.2's I had a 96 z28 that ran 14.2-14.5.....I rest my case
get the vette either lt1 or lt4 don't matter all that much it will run low 13's when driven right just don't go back to a camaro
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I forgot to mention that my Vette was the first car I felt comfortable power shifting. The driving position for me was much better that the 98 T/A 6-speed. The egronomics are just better. I think the Vette has the better M6 transmission too.
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Originally Posted by wildman378
notice the post below, this guys seems like he might understand it too.
"I believe 'ya. I had some older 2nd gens and older mustangs that were manuals with tall gears like that though. I guess 3.07's aren't bad for an auto."
"I believe 'ya. I had some older 2nd gens and older mustangs that were manuals with tall gears like that though. I guess 3.07's aren't bad for an auto."
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Originally Posted by RomeoC4
How many miles would an LS1 C5 be good for. I can get into one for less than 18k but its gonna have 80-90k miles on it.
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Originally Posted by F1Fan
mmm, those are both my posts...
oops well I still got my point across and hope you understand why a manual is geared lower and always will be actually, it's basically like a auto with 2.59's
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Originally Posted by RomeoC4
How many miles would an LS1 C5 be good for. I can get into one for less than 18k but its gonna have 80-90k miles on it.
#37
Originally Posted by Dr. Evil
Mojo isnt joking. He's an avid drag racer. 12.9x with a stock LT1 is faster than %90 of the LS1 F body's are when stock.
Heck, the best my 99 m6 trans am ran was 13.50s at 103mph [2.01 60 foot] when %100 stock from the paper air filter to the exhaust tips.
Same exact track I ran 13.31 at 105mph in my LT4 car when it was stock from air filter to exhaust tips with a 1.99 60 foot time. LS1 cars are fast, but not all F bods are in the 12s stock like people think they are. The LT4 C4 will be just as fast as an SS when compared stock to stock. It may net respond quite as well to mods as an LS1 [nothing does] but it does pretty well. Its fairly easy to get em to 350rwhp with a few odds and ends. It might be a little easier and a little cheaper to get the SS to 350rwhp but its heavier and its rear end will snap once you put stickies on the back. The LT4 cars have a dana44 rear end that is usually good for 1.6x short times. Dont get me wrong, I like the F bods. I've had several of em but it depends on what you want out of the car.
Also, 12.9's in a bone stock lt1 car just doesnt make sense... cmon, even a stock C5 doesnt go 12.9's every day...
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Originally Posted by OdinsRage
wow, so surprising how many of us traded LS1's for LT4's let alone camaro SS's!
I still miss the top end RPM pull of the ls1... so smooth, you could just feel so much power! Lt4 has it good but doesnt throw me back in the seat, might just be the "car" also.
I do agree that its easier to launch a 6sp C4 than an f-body....
And to the gentleman beating Ls1's with a stock Lt1.... the ls1's are either running on 6 cylinders or they cannot drive for anything.
I still miss the top end RPM pull of the ls1... so smooth, you could just feel so much power! Lt4 has it good but doesnt throw me back in the seat, might just be the "car" also.
I do agree that its easier to launch a 6sp C4 than an f-body....
And to the gentleman beating Ls1's with a stock Lt1.... the ls1's are either running on 6 cylinders or they cannot drive for anything.