Notices
C4 General Discussion General C4 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech

C4 advantages

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-10-2005, 03:13 PM
  #1  
Darth Vader
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Darth Vader's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2003
Location: Bowling Green KY.
Posts: 563
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default C4 advantages

Ive heard from people the advantages a C5 has over a C4, more space, roomy... So what are some of the advantages a C4 has over a C5???
Old 02-10-2005, 03:26 PM
  #2  
fsr402
Le Mans Master
 
fsr402's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2002
Location: Jenison MI
Posts: 5,556
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Cruise-In VI Veteran
Cruise-In VII Veteran
St. Jude Donor '06

Default

Originally Posted by Darth Vader
Ive heard from people the advantages a C5 has over a C4, more space, roomy... So what are some of the advantages a C4 has over a C5???
Less room so you wont slide out of the seat on a hard turn. Well at lest not with a 90 - 93 with sport seats..
Old 02-10-2005, 03:55 PM
  #3  
Aaron71771
Le Mans Master
 
Aaron71771's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2000
Location: Traverse City MI
Posts: 6,349
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 14 Posts

Default

looks, style
Old 02-10-2005, 04:08 PM
  #4  
Fozzy_Bear
Waka, Waka, Waka!
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Fozzy_Bear's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2002
Location: Richmond Virginia
Posts: 2,435
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
CI 4-6-8 & 10 Veteran
St. Jude Contributor

Default

Originally Posted by Darth Vader
Ive heard from people the advantages a C5 has over a C4, more space, roomy... So what are some of the advantages a C4 has over a C5???
Just take a look at the sticky over in C5 General anbout 'measurements' and just put an imaginary "C4's Don't" in front of the things listed.

for example:
"C4's Don't" have a seat rock problem
"C4's Don't" have a fuel gage that dances the Lambada
"C4's Don't" leak oil out of the rear diff.
etc.
etc.

Yes, there is a list that could be made for the C4's, but my point is that C5's aren't the end-all of automotive history. (Heck, even the C6's are starting to show some 'quirks'... ask a C6 owner about "Torque Management" and watch a scowl appear on their face)

And lets not overlook one of the big ones: Price; for both the cars and the components. Ask a C5 owner how much it costs to buy a C5 that puts out 400 rwhp. They would have to pay 19K for a cheap '97 and 6k for a good heads/cam package = 25K. Or you could pay 4K for a '84 and 5K for a ZZ383 (with the LT4 Hot Cam) plus another 1K for install incidentals = 10K.

But lets keep this in perspective:
Would I Like to have a C5? - Yes.
Would I sell my C4 to get one? - No.

All this and I didn't even mention style - which is subjective and could go either way.
Old 02-10-2005, 04:29 PM
  #5  
redvette6spd
Safety Car
 
redvette6spd's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2004
Location: Minneapolis MN
Posts: 3,786
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Aaron71771
looks, style
Old 02-10-2005, 04:43 PM
  #6  
ClarenceT
Drifting
 
ClarenceT's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2004
Location: Oceansaide CA
Posts: 1,400
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I like the swivel lights and the hood (clam shell). If only the rear opened up like that (Koensegg style) to expose fuel-cell, suspension, etc (for cleaning, dicking around with, who knows?)
Price is probably the biggest one.
Also supposedly the C4 z51 suspension is more track oriented then base c5's (not zo6). Dunno about that, the ride sure is a hell of a lot stiffer, so I guess on a perfectly flat surface it might have an advantage.
Old 02-10-2005, 04:44 PM
  #7  
LT1SPUD
Pro
 
LT1SPUD's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2004
Location: Decatur Alabama
Posts: 737
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

that wonderful "cockpit" feel.......
Old 02-10-2005, 05:43 PM
  #8  
BrianCunningham
Team Owner
 
BrianCunningham's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2001
Location: Boston, Dallas, Detroit, SoCal, back to Boston MA
Posts: 30,596
Received 238 Likes on 166 Posts

Default

C4 floors aren't made out of wood, it's balsa wood on the C5's Does Chevy supply the Cuprinol?

C4's don't spit out there control arm bushings, C5's use those lovely cams to set caster & camber, basically they are bending the a-arms whenever they do an alignment.

C4 trannies don't overheat. C5's have to install coolers for any serious road racing. And NO they don't have a better weight bias with the transaxle back there, it's actually a little worse.
Old 02-10-2005, 06:44 PM
  #9  
85 500 horse
Melting Slicks
 
85 500 horse's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2004
Location: Obama=death for America
Posts: 2,954
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

I've put a lot of money into my C4 and I'm very happy with it. If I could sell it and get all my money back, I wouldn't get a C5. That's how much I like my C4. The C5 has some nice features that the C4 lacks, but that comes with any newer model.
Old 02-10-2005, 06:52 PM
  #10  
Bilyk
Drifting
 
Bilyk's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2001
Location: Mississauga Ont
Posts: 1,419
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

shorter wheelbase, LT5 option, stiffer suspension, CHEAPER!
Old 02-10-2005, 06:55 PM
  #11  
Mr. Peabody
Le Mans Master
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Mr. Peabody's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2004
Location: Everett WA
Posts: 7,690
Received 476 Likes on 353 Posts
C4 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) 2019

Default

A C-4 actually looks like a Corvette.
Old 02-10-2005, 07:03 PM
  #12  
C5Jimmy
Melting Slicks
 
C5Jimmy's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2004
Location: Somerset Co, NJ
Posts: 3,219
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by Fozzy_Bear
Just take a look at the sticky over in C5 General anbout 'measurements' and just put an imaginary "C4's Don't" in front of the things listed.

for example:
"C4's Don't" have a seat rock problem
"C4's Don't" have a fuel gage that dances the Lambada
"C4's Don't" leak oil out of the rear diff.
etc.
etc.

Yes, there is a list that could be made for the C4's, but my point is that C5's aren't the end-all of automotive history. (Heck, even the C6's are starting to show some 'quirks'... ask a C6 owner about "Torque Management" and watch a scowl appear on their face)

And lets not overlook one of the big ones: Price; for both the cars and the components. Ask a C5 owner how much it costs to buy a C5 that puts out 400 rwhp. They would have to pay 19K for a cheap '97 and 6k for a good heads/cam package = 25K. Or you could pay 4K for a '84 and 5K for a ZZ383 (with the LT4 Hot Cam) plus another 1K for install incidentals = 10K.

But lets keep this in perspective:
Would I Like to have a C5? - Yes.
Would I sell my C4 to get one? - No.

All this and I didn't even mention style - which is subjective and could go either way.
I love the C5, and yes , lets admit it, its just a better car, but I won't sell my C4 to get a C5. I paid 11k for my 92 vert, and to me that was a bargain to become a Vette owner. Like I said, I love the C5's but I can't put out 20 thou plus for an earlier C5 (My favorite is the Z06, but forget that! My second choice would be a '99 FRC)Love C5's but they're not in my budget right now, plus I enjoy my C4, and I am kind of partial to them, I grew up with the C4, its from "my era" (Well, I was 16 in 1984, and 28 when the last C4 was made in '96) The only thing that annoys me about my 4 is that it has an automatic transmission! So, in short, I can mod out the C4, and still come out ahead moneywise, than selling it, and saving to get a C5!
Old 02-10-2005, 07:08 PM
  #13  
RoadVettes
Drifting
 
RoadVettes's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2001
Location: Bradenton Florida
Posts: 1,879
Received 20 Likes on 16 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by LT1SPUD
that wonderful "cockpit" feel.......
Old 02-10-2005, 07:20 PM
  #14  
redvette6spd
Safety Car
 
redvette6spd's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2004
Location: Minneapolis MN
Posts: 3,786
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Aaron71771
looks, style
best looking vette to date
Old 02-10-2005, 07:29 PM
  #15  
kwik_ta
Race Director
 
kwik_ta's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2004
Location: St. Peters MO Sometimes you have to prove yourself by doing alot of killing or alot of dying...
Posts: 13,793
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

C4's are just cool they don't look like prissy prom queen cars. The C5 was heavily refined to give a Cadilac feel with Corvette performance. It appeals more towards the "waxer" crowd instead of the performance crowd... IMHO
Old 02-10-2005, 08:10 PM
  #16  
ron92Z07
Racer
 
ron92Z07's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2004
Location: Aurora CO
Posts: 254
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Fozzy_Bear
"C4's Don't" leak oil out of the rear diff.
Really? Mine does. Please tell me I am not the only C4 owner that has a rear end leak.

Ron
Old 02-10-2005, 08:49 PM
  #17  
65Z01
Team Owner
 
65Z01's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: SE NY
Posts: 90,675
Likes: 0
Received 300 Likes on 274 Posts
Cruise-In II Veteran

Default

Indeed the list for me is:
-custom fit cockpit (if I wanted more "room" I'd buy a Caddy)
-clam shell hood
-digi dash
-overall (unique) styling
-ride feel
-quick steering
-the value/$$ is superb
-excellent torque
-ease of modding the L98

Get notified of new replies

To C4 advantages

Old 02-10-2005, 08:52 PM
  #18  
jlsru
Drifting
 
jlsru's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2002
Location: cincinnati ohio
Posts: 1,835
Received 23 Likes on 21 Posts
Cruise-In V Veteran

Default

Originally Posted by ron92Z07
Really? Mine does. Please tell me I am not the only C4 owner that has a rear end leak.

Ron

You are not the only one.
Old 02-10-2005, 10:54 PM
  #19  
corvted
Racer
 
corvted's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2004
Location: Central Cal
Posts: 389
Received 55 Likes on 25 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by C4Jimmy
I love the C5, and yes , lets admit it, its just a better car, but I won't sell my C4 to get a C5.

Old 02-10-2005, 11:19 PM
  #20  
JH
Burning Brakes
 
JH's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 1999
Location: Colorado Springs, Colo., USA
Posts: 836
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Darth Vader
Ive heard from people the advantages a C5 has over a C4, more space, roomy... So what are some of the advantages a C4 has over a C5???
I sold my 36,000 mile '87 last October and purchased an '02 with 8,000 miles on it. The first few days I was DEPRESSED! The C4 is much more in-your-face, demanding to be driven, with respect. The C5 is much more docile when you are just tooling around. However, romp the C5 and you figure out what it's all about. Yup, the Caddy comments are correct, if you just cruise. It felt like a Buick for the first weeks, while I was sorting it out. But once I learned the handling, brakes and how to put the power on smoothly (a very important skill in either a C4 or a C5) I found the beast within. A kid in an EVO tried to take me on on a very deserted stretch of divided freeway in Southern Colorado and I have never seen a car explode like the C5. She hit 120 in an amazingly quick time, rolled out of third into overdrive at 122 then powered to 135 equally as fast. That was enough for me. And the EVO.

A couple of specifics: the early C4 seats, for an average-sized guy like me, are OUTSTANDING. Wish they were on my C5, even with the sport seat option. I had Flowmaster cat-backs on the C4. The stock C5 is too quiet for me. The runflats are hideous. My C4 had Firehawks on it, and they were sticky, smooth and great.

So love your C4s.

I wish I could have kept mine, and gotten the C5, as well.


Quick Reply: C4 advantages



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:14 AM.