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Old 10-11-2002, 03:00 AM   #1
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When you get in an accident or rear ended and your bottle gets punctured or broken then does it not explode? Would'nt you burn :mad like that.
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Old 10-11-2002, 06:51 AM   #2
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Nitrous Oxide by itself is not flamable.
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Old 10-11-2002, 12:53 PM   #3
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There’s a pressure relief
valve on all the bottles.
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Old 10-11-2002, 01:48 PM   #4
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When you get in an accident or rear ended and your bottle gets punctured or broken then does it not explode? Would'nt you burn :mad like that.
If you get rear ended and the bottle is ruptured AND the fuel tank is ruptured you will find yourself in a bad situation. This is why I think the folks that put their bottle in the spare tire compartment, under the fuel tank are crazy or lack foresight.
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Old 10-11-2002, 02:25 PM   #5
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There is a pressure relief valve on all bottles that hopefully would be able to react fast eough. N2O is not flammable, but it is compressed.
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Old 10-11-2002, 03:55 PM   #6
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If you get into an accident that causes the rear of your car to compress that much that the frame buckles in almost two feet you are probably in for it.

The blow off valve does work if the bottle is hit however, it is only a small hole at 1000psi it takes a little bit for it to drain out and by then if the bottle did crack the pressure probably would have ripped the bottle in half.

More likely what would happen is that the bottle would get pushed into the back of the seat, breaking free of its mounts. It might knock the cap off and then send the bottle flying out the back of the car. I'm sure you've all seen this in the movies.

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Old 10-11-2002, 11:32 PM   #7
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If the users know this then why do they use it? :eek: plain crazy, I'd just install a blower :yesnod:
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Old 10-12-2002, 04:59 PM   #8
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If the users know this then why do they use it?
It's fine if it's in your cargo area. I've never seen anyone have a problem with the bottle there. It usually gets ejected out of the cargo window in a bad wreck. Once that happens the bottle spins like a top while the nitrous empties from it.
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Old 10-12-2002, 07:06 PM   #9
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Thats strange you are saying that if you get rearended the brackets will break and the bottle will fly out the window but if it is mounted under the rear with the same brackets it will stay in place. If you get hit that hard you may have more to worry about than what happened to the bottle. :crazy:
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Old 10-12-2002, 08:02 PM   #10
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No, what I'm saying is if the bottle is under the car, The bottle will get driven into the ground by the fuel tank. You see, the spare tire is part of the anti-crush structure. If you replace the spare with the nitrous bottle, you have just made the bottle part of the anti-crush structure of the rear end. Not good.

Bart, we have gone through this before. Let's not do it again, okay.



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Old 10-13-2002, 02:01 PM   #11
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Well in your scenario the bottle would very likely break the valve off and you would find it about a block away because it would be like a rocket.
While talking hypothetical situations what if someone runs a red light and hits you in the side or you hit them in the side either way the bottle could break loose from the plastic brackets and break the valve off and instantly fill the interior of the car with nitrous this would prove to be fatal for the occupants so you see while you are creating your scenario you are overlooking others. I don't think the bottle is any more dangerous in one place than another. Beyond that I don't have the bottom of my corvette looking like swiss cheese where holes are required to mount the bottle nitrous line blow down tube and I have the cargo space to haul luggage as I drive my car out of state and need the room. Instead of focusing on a rear end collision look at all scenario's what if you roll over would you rather have the tank mounted under the car and find it out in the field or would you prefer to have it flying around in the car with you. I guess we can agree to disagree on this one I will continue to use my bottle as I have the past three years mounted outside the car. :seeya
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Old 10-13-2002, 02:09 PM   #12
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Bart, what size bottle do you have back there? Will a 10lb bottle fit in the spare carrier with a NX remote bottle opener? Inquiring minds want to know. ;)
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Old 10-14-2002, 12:44 PM   #13
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Bart, what size bottle do you have back there? Will a 10lb bottle fit in the spare carrier with a NX remote bottle opener? Inquiring minds want to know. ;)
Yes I have a 10lb. bottle it is mounted so I can lay on the ground and reach through the gap it the carrier and open or close the valve also have a remote valve but if I'm not going to drive the car for awhile I close both it can be opened in a few seconds. I use a 18 volt cordless drill with a socket to spin the bolt on the carrier takes about 10 seconds to drop it so I can change tanks. I don't know how the spare tire would be any help in a rearend collision because is is mounted at a downward slope anything hitting from the rear will drive the wheel down and forward under the axle. I have my vette lowered can't see how anything would be lower and going in under the back but if rearended it would crush the fuel tank .
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I don't know how the spare tire would be any help in a rearend collision because is is mounted at a downward slope anything hitting from the rear will drive the wheel down and forward under the axle. I have my vette lowered can't see how anything would be lower and going in under the back but if rearended it would crush the fuel tank .
The spare tire is driven into the back of the differential when rear ended. This is because of the Corvette's low rear end height. When a Corvette is rear ended, it is almost always by a taller vehicle. This causes the back of the car to be driven down and causes upward frame buckling near the diff. This downward movement of the back of the car swings the spare down in-line with the differential. GM sells a support bar that replaces the spare tire assembly for those who wish to run without a spare but still want rear end anti crush protection. They do so for a reason.



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Old 10-22-2002, 10:14 AM   #15
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Spare tire delete was an option on my 95 coupe. Are you saying that if there is no spare from the factory there would be a brace installed in it's place?
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Old 10-22-2002, 11:42 AM   #16
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Yep, that's what I've been told.
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Fire or no fire I would rather have the bottle outside the car. Anything you have inside the car no matter how good it's bolted down WILL become a projectile in a severe accident more than likely breaking your back or something else. I have seen it numerous times on accident scenes(I am a professional firefighter) Even objects as light as CD changers in the trunk have flown through the back seats of cars and struck pasengers causing great damage. The more weight the more momentum the more damage. Not that I would go changing how I personally do things from what I have seen,(if so I would have to live in a bubble to stay away from all dangers) but I just figured I would share that.
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Spare tire delete was an option on my 95 coupe. Are you saying that if there is no spare from the factory there would be a brace installed in it's place?
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Old 11-01-2002, 08:57 AM   #19
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why not have the best of both worlds and mount a reinforcement bracket to replace the spare tire and put the nitrous bottle inside the reinforcements to protect both the car and the bottle. you could design a "ramp" into the bracket to make sure the bottle is pitched clear under compression.

I like to have the bottle hidden but stay safe too. any merit to this idea???

maybe you could take a spare tire and cut out the middle of the rim and still have enough room????

just thinking out loud, I do like the idea of mounting the bottle outside the cockpit to keep it from doinking me on the head!!!

can you also mount the bottle behind the seats by cutting out one of the package tray storage areas?? I'm not a fan of cuttin the car up but if it's just a plastic intsert and a small section of the floor, mounting the bottle vertically might work.

thanks for any tips. going fast doesn't scare me, it's the sudden stops that occur when I wreck!!
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