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Old 07-22-2006, 11:49 AM   #101
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The top fuel cars now use a computer to limit the power transferred to the rear wheels. Trying to control turbo boost at the line as a traction aide is kind of a step down in technology compared to the traction control devices they use now. Also, the cars have enough power to sping the tires at 300+ MPH. I really don't see how adding another 1000 HP or so would make the cars faster. The Biggest thing right now that would make the cars faster is more traction.
With turbos since they have lag and supercharger almost none, it is possible to minimize wheel spin at launch which would aide in traction because your not overpowering the tires. This is one of the main reason that turbo cars are beating up on supercharged cars. I read in the one of the Mustang pages a while back about 2 exactly the same chassis with around the same horsepower motor. One turbo, one blower, the rpm was limit was about same (500 rpm difference) power of blower came on sooner (~1200 rpm) turbo showed a more rapid increse in power once if got going.
At the track the blower car had more problem with breaking the tire loose than the turbo car.

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Old 07-22-2006, 12:13 PM   #102
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I notice that you have your radiator in front of your intercooler.. Wouldn't that put unnecessary hot air into the intercooler therby negating its effeciency? I ask this because I may end up having to do the very same thing in my setup.

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It's an air to water intercooler in the front with a tank mounted between the roll cage down bars in the back. The reservoir is filled with fresh ice water after every run and circulated through the system. It's a pretty cool setup that works quite well.
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Old 07-22-2006, 02:42 PM   #103
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It's an air to water intercooler in the front with a tank mounted between the roll cage down bars in the back. The reservoir is filled with fresh ice water after every run and circulated through the system. It's a pretty cool setup that works quite well.
I thought it might be an water to air intercooler as it looks like it has insulation on top. Anyway, I called turbonetics and they said it didn't matter where you place the intercooler (in front or in back of the radiator). For some reason that does not make sense to me as the hot air from the radiator would seem to render the intercooler much less effective. Of course I'm sure the intercooler picks up quite a bit of heat from the radiator from even being in such a close proximity. I spoke to Greg at Blower works (great guy by the way!!) and I might just toss the intercooler in the trash and go the gaseous rout e... I just can't seem to get a handle on cooling my car even with a 12X24.5" radiator in back..
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Old 07-22-2006, 07:25 PM   #104
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106mm.. what are you doing as far as fuel is concerned? very curious.. I have an opportunity to be the builder of a 69 camaro project that will be used as a track car and am trying to put a game plan together for it as far as engine management (BS3) and fueling.. I think 160lb/hr injectors at 2400 rpm would be done for so the BS3 has acapability to run 16 injectors staged which would gibve you up to 320lb/hr of fuel to feed the monster which I think would be plenty. but always looking around for ideas from other working setups!

thanks man!

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Old 07-24-2006, 02:49 AM   #105
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what are you doing as far as fuel is concerned?
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You have finally managed to ask a question I cannot fully answer. I'm going to talk to Lee this week and get a full rundown on the specs of every component in the fuel system. I know quite a bit about it, but not everything. I'll get back with you!
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Old 07-25-2006, 07:19 PM   #106
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the main advantages of turbo i can see is flexabiltiy! you are much more tunable than a supercharger! you can run as much boost as you want and referance that boost level to whatever you want! you could match it to speed (increasing boost with speed), throttle posistion, gear, engine rpm, anyhting you want or any combination of these!

so you can basically set up the power to come in how you want it! your at full throttle off the line but you dont have full power! maybe only 30% off the line! then as the speed and grip levels build you build boost (and therefore power) and you maximise the grip per gear!

this would be a lot of setting up for eacjh track but would deffinatly make the racing faster!

not to mension the 1000bhp + more you could get yout of one!!

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Old 07-26-2006, 02:35 AM   #107
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it sounds wicked..http://videos.streetfire.net/recentv...de98aca9a7.htm
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:37 PM   #108
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video super - i see it 100-more times!

The previous message was with number 106!!!

You are very popular, 106mm_guy!
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Old 07-27-2006, 12:35 AM   #109
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I never get tired of watching that video, either! lol
I used to watch the car every time it ran locally. I'd stand there, glued to the fence, listening to it spool and then watching it launch like something from another planet.....I just giggled every time!
Kinda like when I open my garage door these days! I am very fortunate and blessed.
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Old 07-28-2006, 09:33 AM   #110
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I never get tired of watching that video, either! lol
I used to watch the car every time it ran locally. I'd stand there, glued to the fence, listening to it spool and then watching it launch like something from another planet.....I just giggled every time!
Kinda like when I open my garage door these days! I am very fortunate and blessed.
For sure..... that things launches like nothing I've ever seen, perhaps short of a top alcohol car. I can't imagine what it must feel like to take it down the strip...!!!!
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:21 AM   #111
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holy &*%#&*(!!!!!
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Old 08-03-2006, 01:46 PM   #112
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Old 08-04-2006, 12:20 AM   #113
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Excuse me, I need to go plant a money tree now...
Where do ya get one of those? I could use a small orchard! lol

Thanks for the kind words.
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