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Old 10-21-2005, 01:10 AM   #1
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I'm building a '94 LT1 Turbo engine, What are the best injectors around? What are the best priced injectors and still get me buy. The LT1 has ported heads 1.6 RR, 8.5 Compression, Stroked to 383, and forged everything. I want to get the best performance out of it but still be streetable.
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Old 10-21-2005, 01:14 AM   #2
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I'm really happy with my motron 65's They do great as far as driveablity (probally better than my 42's believe it or not)

The 65's are good up to probally 650-700rwhp.
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:19 AM   #3
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Cool where can I find these injectors? I tried doing a search and could not find a supplier.
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Old 10-22-2005, 01:23 AM   #4
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Old 10-22-2005, 02:30 AM   #5
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Sounds like the Siemens 3172's or Siemens L107's would be in order here. Stay away from the Delphi 17113738's as they do not tune easily with the LT1 & LS1 PCM's.

Both the 3172's and L107's are in stock in flow-matched sets.
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Sounds like the Siemens 3172's or Siemens L107's would be in order here. Stay away from the Delphi 17113738's as they do not tune easily with the LT1 & LS1 PCM's.

Both the 3172's and L107's are in stock in flow-matched sets.
Do you guys make a fuel system for the LT1 vette that can support 1k hp?
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:44 PM   #7
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Sounds like the Siemens 3172's or Siemens L107's would be in order here. Stay away from the Delphi 17113738's as they do not tune easily with the LT1 & LS1 PCM's.

Both the 3172's and L107's are in stock in flow-matched sets.
Why are the Delphi/Multec 3738 injectors hard to tune? Are there some inherent problems with fuel metering at low engine loads and or low engine speeds?
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Old 10-22-2005, 04:36 PM   #8
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Do you guys make a fuel system for the LT1 vette that can support 1k hp?
We manufacture harnesses etc. to assemble double in-tank systems which are available to dealers listed on our web page such as Blowerworks. These systems are capable of supporting upwards of 1000HP depending on the configuration. Please contact Blowerworks to discuss your requirements.
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Why are the Delphi/Multec 3738 injectors hard to tune? Are there some inherent problems with fuel metering at low engine loads and or low engine speeds?
The 17113738 is a very slow/ lazy injector plus the electromagnetic properties of the coil in combination with some ECM/PCM drivers cause erratic fueling. These injectors seem to work very well with GN's, Sy's Ty's, L98, Mustangs etc. Based on feedback from our dealers and customers most people are not able to obtain good results with them. That is not to say that it can not be done as we do have some customers running them in LT1 and LS1 cars but they are few. The Siemens 3172 and L107 are much easier to tune for most people.
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Old 10-22-2005, 06:48 PM   #10
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Siemens 83 lb/hr injectors here.
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Are the L107's E85 compatible? Do they come in shorty's?
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Are the L107's E85 compatible? Do they come in shorty's?
Mototron has stated the following:

"They are rated for 85% methanol and people have used them with 100% methanol with no problems."

Standard 20% ethanol for gasohol is OK too.

Shorty's are listed here: http://www.racetronix.com/S107FM.html
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very cool, thanks
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I'm building a '94 LT1 Turbo engine, What are the best injectors around? What are the best priced injectors and still get me buy. The LT1 has ported heads 1.6 RR, 8.5 Compression, Stroked to 383, and forged everything. I want to get the best performance out of it but still be streetable.
What brand of turbo are you using and did you or are you going to reprogram the ecm? You should post some pics.
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I'm using the Mototron 60's here... Very good thus far, I'm still tuning received them a few days ago...

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The 17113738 is a very slow/ lazy injector plus the electromagnetic properties of the coil in combination with some ECM/PCM drivers cause erratic fueling. These injectors seem to work very well with GN's, Sy's Ty's, L98, Mustangs etc. Based on feedback from our dealers and customers most people are not able to obtain good results with them. That is not to say that it can not be done as we do have some customers running them in LT1 and LS1 cars but they are few. The Siemens 3172 and L107 are much easier to tune for most people.
That is the first I have heard of that phenomenon, I wonder If that explains some of bruce's woes. Those are his exact injectors (17113738 ) Very inconsistent fueling.
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That is the first I have heard of that phenomenon, I wonder If that explains some of bruce's woes. Those are his exact injectors (17113738 ) Very inconsistent fueling.

This is maybe true with the 50s . But we won't have that problem with the GEN 7 ECU to drive the big Delphi 96s I got now.
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For sure! those nice Peak and hold drivers will snap those babies open with AUTHORITY!
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This is maybe true with the 50s . But we won't have that problem with the GEN 7 ECU to drive the big Delphi 96s I got now.
Low-Z Multec 1 and PH drivers are a totally different thing.
This only applies to P/N 17113738
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