Selling Vette & Tax Concerns
#21
Cruising is the passion!
Member Since: Jan 2003
Location: SIMSBURY CT
Posts: 6,140
Received 304 Likes
on
213 Posts
St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17-'18-'19-'20-'21-'22-'23-'24
Originally Posted by vette7nine
You mean to tell me that if Joe Schmo sets up a lemonade stand in his driveway and sells $10,000 worth of refreshments one summer, he shouldn't worry about the tax consequences?
Take a look around Ebay once in a while and notice the millions of dollars that change hands every day. You don't think the IRS is watching? Wake up! There are people making a very comfortable living selling auction items and you better believe they are reporting their earnings (or at least they should be) Those that aren't will get caught, eventually.
Take a look around Ebay once in a while and notice the millions of dollars that change hands every day. You don't think the IRS is watching? Wake up! There are people making a very comfortable living selling auction items and you better believe they are reporting their earnings (or at least they should be) Those that aren't will get caught, eventually.
#22
Instructor
Member Since: Jan 2005
Location: Chardon Ohio
Posts: 159
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by mrjbq
I'm sorry, but you have been given incorrect info there, the IRS won't come after you, just because you deposited a check.
I just pulled out a lot more than $10,000 from investments to build a garage and deposited it into checking account and nobody said a word.
#23
Melting Slicks
Member Since: Mar 2003
Location: Oklahoma City Oklahoma
Posts: 2,898
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If you deposit $10,000 or more in your bank account, the IRS is notified, but they will do nothing. It takes regular deposits of $10,000 or more, for them to start giving you the evil eye.
When I worked overseas, although I was working tax free, I was still sending my paycheck home. I deposited $9999 every 30 days to keep out from under the watchful eye of Uncle Sammy, and kept the rest in an overseas bank. The magic number here, is $10K and above. If you are REALLY that paranoid about it, then just keep your deposits under 10 grand. Deposit $9999.99 and you're safe
When I worked overseas, although I was working tax free, I was still sending my paycheck home. I deposited $9999 every 30 days to keep out from under the watchful eye of Uncle Sammy, and kept the rest in an overseas bank. The magic number here, is $10K and above. If you are REALLY that paranoid about it, then just keep your deposits under 10 grand. Deposit $9999.99 and you're safe
#24
Drifting
Member Since: Aug 2004
Location: Fayetteville NC
Posts: 1,763
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by mrjbq
I'm sorry, but you have been given incorrect info there, the IRS won't come after you, just because you deposited a check.
#25
Team Owner
The laws on all this stuff change, and have changed and I am not sure I have seen ANY current information in this entire thread!!
Kalaway, are you sure a home seller can still roll a profit into a new home? The current law allows the first $500k capital gain for a married couple to be tax free, and
The rules for bank reporting of cash transactions have also changed. Depositing a check for $10,000 would not automatically generate a report, but making numerous deposits of $9,999 would almost certainly be reported today because it is suspicious activity. A tremendous amount of responsibility for flagging suspicious transactions has been shifted to the banks. They are obligated to identify and report "suspicious activity" which can be broadly defined but typically relates to CASH transactions. The big concern is money laundering and how it can be used to hide illegal activity and finance terrorism. It is not about catching tax cheats.
edit: well, yes, it is also about catching tax cheats!
IRS currency reporting info here:
http://www.irs.gov/compliance/enforc...113003,00.html
Kalaway, are you sure a home seller can still roll a profit into a new home? The current law allows the first $500k capital gain for a married couple to be tax free, and
Under current rules, the value of your new home doesn't matter for tax purposes.
edit: well, yes, it is also about catching tax cheats!
IRS currency reporting info here:
http://www.irs.gov/compliance/enforc...113003,00.html
Last edited by PRNDL; 10-07-2005 at 06:22 PM.
#30
You are required by IRS regulations to pay capital gains tax on any personal property sold at a profit, and you are not allowed to take a capital loss on personal property sold at a loss.
Is the IRS every going to question you on a 12K deposit? Maybe and maybe not, but if they do call or send a notice just write a letter and tell them you bought it for 10K and over the last 10 years you put 5K into upgrades. Maint, ins and upkeep costs do not add to basis.
They will accept your explanation, and its highly doubtfull they will ever question your answer, unless you have other tax problems.
So in short don't worry about it.
Is the IRS every going to question you on a 12K deposit? Maybe and maybe not, but if they do call or send a notice just write a letter and tell them you bought it for 10K and over the last 10 years you put 5K into upgrades. Maint, ins and upkeep costs do not add to basis.
They will accept your explanation, and its highly doubtfull they will ever question your answer, unless you have other tax problems.
So in short don't worry about it.
#31
Team Owner
Member Since: May 2001
Location: Virginia
Posts: 24,996
Received 1,229 Likes
on
875 Posts
St. Jude Donor '11
Originally Posted by KALAWAY
The tax man does look for his share of "profit" when you sell your house, unless it goes into another house, but not because you sold a car. I guess if you wanted to be totally honest, you COULD pay taxes on your "gain" of $2000, but you'd never pay tax on the $14000.
Nope...if you sell your house you can take $250,000 for you and $250,000 profit for your spouse without having to pay capital gains even if it doesn't go into another house...you can only do this if you have lived in the house for at least 3 years...then you can do it over and over...
#32
Team Owner
Member Since: May 2001
Location: Virginia
Posts: 24,996
Received 1,229 Likes
on
875 Posts
St. Jude Donor '11
[QUOTE=vette7nine]You mean to tell me that if Joe Schmo sets up a lemonade stand in his driveway and sells $10,000 worth of refreshments one summer, he shouldn't worry about the tax consequences?
Do you know "Joe Schmo" and does he sell franchises for his lemonade business?
Do you know "Joe Schmo" and does he sell franchises for his lemonade business?
#33
Melting Slicks
[QUOTE=mrjbq]Not sure about the IRS, but the DEA would check it out, if it were a cash deposit in excess of $10k
QUOTE]
Don't worry about the cash being in excess of $10k. Just make several deposits. There is a form for deposits/withdrawls the bank fills out and sends the Feds. Talk to a branch manager and find out if smaller deposits a day or two apart would negate the paper work. The less Uncle Sam knows, the better off you are.
QUOTE]
Don't worry about the cash being in excess of $10k. Just make several deposits. There is a form for deposits/withdrawls the bank fills out and sends the Feds. Talk to a branch manager and find out if smaller deposits a day or two apart would negate the paper work. The less Uncle Sam knows, the better off you are.
#34
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by vette7nine
If I'm not mistaken, a check deposit into my bank account will be a $14,000 profit in their eyes?
#35
Why would anyone purposely tell the IRS that they made $2K selling a car, especially after reading the discussions above? Sounds like you have a death wish. Are ya crazy!?!?!?!
#36
Drifting
Member Since: Oct 2005
Location: Old Skool, NY
Posts: 1,501
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by vette7nine
I bought my vette 15 years ago and paid $12,000. Unless this dollar figure is shown on the title (haven't checked yet), I have no documented proof of what I paid for the car. Let's say I sell the car today for $14,000. Wouldn't the IRS be knocking on my door wanting to know why I made a $14,000 deposit into my bank account? Technically, I would have made a $2,000 profit from the sale and would be required to pay tax on that amount. If there is no proof of the original sale price, what happens? Pay tax on the full $14,000?? I hate to think of that scenario....
How have any of you handled this situation?
How have any of you handled this situation?
Man, I wish I bought my cars from you... I could've told the DMV that you'll take care of the tax when I registered!
#37
Pro
Member Since: Jun 2002
Location: La Jolla California
Posts: 544
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I'm surprised nobody here has brought up inflation. If you bought it for $12K 15 years ago, that works out to $17.85K present day money. If you sell it for $14K, you're actually taking a $3.85K loss.
#39
Le Mans Master
Member Since: May 2003
Location: Fernandina Beach FL
Posts: 8,484
Received 3,222 Likes
on
1,733 Posts
2023 Restomod of the Year finalist
2020 C3 of the Year Winner - Modified
Originally Posted by Yello95
======================================== =========
Nope...if you sell your house you can take $250,000 for you and $250,000 profit for your spouse without having to pay capital gains even if it doesn't go into another house...you can only do this if you have lived in the house for at least 3 years...then you can do it over and over...
Nope...if you sell your house you can take $250,000 for you and $250,000 profit for your spouse without having to pay capital gains even if it doesn't go into another house...you can only do this if you have lived in the house for at least 3 years...then you can do it over and over...
How do I know? I'm doing this for a tax free living!!! I'm renovating the houses while taking a draw against the equity.