How to replace fiberglass front end (doors foreward)
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How to replace fiberglass front end (doors foreward)
Well I am still waiting for the insurance company to get out here and look at my car
I've been going over the different options in my head and was wondering how hard is it to replace the nose? Can someone walk me through the basics? I figure it's just cut off the old stuff, replace radiator support, square it up, lay on some goop where the fenders touch the supports, and strap it all in place untill goop sets up. Am I close?
I am looking at the "door to door" front ends from Ecklers
What adhesive is used? (it looks like the fenders are glues to ribs)
I've been going over the different options in my head and was wondering how hard is it to replace the nose? Can someone walk me through the basics? I figure it's just cut off the old stuff, replace radiator support, square it up, lay on some goop where the fenders touch the supports, and strap it all in place untill goop sets up. Am I close?
I am looking at the "door to door" front ends from Ecklers
What adhesive is used? (it looks like the fenders are glues to ribs)
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I replaced the front clip on a 79. I purchased two books 1. Ecklers Complete Guide to Fiberglass repair 2. Glas-Ra Vol.3. They both provide good information about how the structure is and what to look for and order of bonding. The way I did mine was I bought a used complete clip, however I had to break the inner fenders loose and rebond once I had everything set. I took my time and worked on fitting everything before any bonding and it took about five days. If I had to do it again, i'm sure it would still take time, but I did get all the body lines to match.
The bonding adhesive I used was Lord Fusor EZ127 (slow set).
The bonding adhesive I used was Lord Fusor EZ127 (slow set).
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By the way,if you decide to replace the entire cap with a one piece,send me a PM or a email.I have a complete one brand new from Vanacor,that I'm not using.
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If you do the replacement yourself make sure you install your hood first, and then line up the front clip. You can always raise your hood with shims but you will not be able to lower it if you mount the clip to low. Just my .02 . Good luck
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When I installed mine I did like mentioned above, install the hood and dry fit everything, I then made several reference marks on the fenders to the doors. Instead of strapping to bond I drilled several pilot holes around the cowl supports. I used a cake decorating bag so when I mixed up the first batch of Vette Bond I was able to lay down a nice consistent bead. I did not bond the inner fenders at first (too much at one time) After setting the clip into place and aligning the reference marks use sheet metal screws to fasten into place using the pre drilled holes. After that has dried then you can unbolt the inner fenders from the core support and drop them low enough to lay a bead of Vette Bond around the contact points, move back into place, bolt up and again screw to hold until bond has set. Remove the screws and grind a small amount away from the hole as to make a dish, or cup and fill with the panel adhesive / filler. One more tip is buy as complete of a nose as possible, some have the valence and some don't, do yourself a favor and buy the one that does. That will save you time and less bonding.
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Originally Posted by crf311
If you do the replacement yourself make sure you install your hood first, and then line up the front clip. You can always raise your hood with shims but you will not be able to lower it if you mount the clip to low. Just my .02 . Good luck
Good tip.
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If your insurance company is paying for the damage, don't use a one piece front end or let them assume such. Insist on original, bonded style, press molded parts . Then, after they've written you the check, do what you want .
Personally, I wouldn't use a 1-piece front end, regardless. It's a sure tip-off to any knowledgeable Corvette buyer that the car had suffered extensive front end damage at one point and it says, "body man's shortcut" all over it. Of course if you can pocket some of the cash and still have a presentable (to a passer-by) Vette, that may make up for the non-original repairs.
Personally, I wouldn't use a 1-piece front end, regardless. It's a sure tip-off to any knowledgeable Corvette buyer that the car had suffered extensive front end damage at one point and it says, "body man's shortcut" all over it. Of course if you can pocket some of the cash and still have a presentable (to a passer-by) Vette, that may make up for the non-original repairs.
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Ye Ol Front end
Originally Posted by johns_vette
I replaced the front clip on a 79. I purchased two books 1. Ecklers Complete Guide to Fiberglass repair 2. Glas-Ra Vol.3. They both provide good information about how the structure is and what to look for and order of bonding. The way I did mine was I bought a used complete clip, however I had to break the inner fenders loose and rebond once I had everything set. I took my time and worked on fitting everything before any bonding and it took about five days. If I had to do it again, i'm sure it would still take time, but I did get all the body lines to match.
The bonding adhesive I used was Lord Fusor EZ127 (slow set).
The bonding adhesive I used was Lord Fusor EZ127 (slow set).
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If you work on the car a lot, consider the tilt up front end. I've though that
the engineers on the C4 were really thinking when they made the tilt up
front end. Lift it, up, everything out of the way...
Who is selling the tilting front end kits these days?
the engineers on the C4 were really thinking when they made the tilt up
front end. Lift it, up, everything out of the way...
Who is selling the tilting front end kits these days?
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Details , details
Originally Posted by CalHusker
I have a 72 that needs a front end. I was wondering how to go about the replacement. Thanks, Mike
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Having it for awhile
I sure know that tune. I'lll get around to it has been a motto of miune for awhile. I must enjoy having a job to do. Nothing akes me ahppier tho as when I finally get around to it. Smile
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Well this is my daily driver, and after the insurance pays out one way or the other, I think they will want the rental car back, so this will need to be done kinda quick
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One Piece
Originally Posted by LemansBlue68
If your insurance company is paying for the damage, don't use a one piece front end or let them assume such. Insist on original, bonded style, press molded parts . Then, after they've written you the check, do what you want .
Personally, I wouldn't use a 1-piece front end, regardless. It's a sure tip-off to any knowledgeable Corvette buyer that the car had suffered extensive front end damage at one point and it says, "body man's shortcut" all over it. Of course if you can pocket some of the cash and still have a presentable (to a passer-by) Vette, that may make up for the non-original repairs.
Personally, I wouldn't use a 1-piece front end, regardless. It's a sure tip-off to any knowledgeable Corvette buyer that the car had suffered extensive front end damage at one point and it says, "body man's shortcut" all over it. Of course if you can pocket some of the cash and still have a presentable (to a passer-by) Vette, that may make up for the non-original repairs.
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Yo...john, Hows your day? Where can we get some of that slow set?
http://www.lord.com