Building a new garage-should I put in a pit?
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Building a new garage-should I put in a pit?
The foundation guys are due to start work next week. I was wonder if anybody had a pit in their garage? You know, like the ones at Jiffy Lube. Seems like it would be awfully handy? I was thinking of a something about 45" wide, 6 foot deep and 15 feet long. Figure if it won't add a whole lot to the overall cost. Anybody done this or thought about it?
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Check your local laws, it may violate code to have one in a residential garage. If thats not a problem then I think it would be a great idea.
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They are illegal in some states. (unless you have enough money to pay off towns like Jiffy Lube)
I think it would be really handy. You would have to cover it with some type of metal grate when its not in use.
I think it would be really handy. You would have to cover it with some type of metal grate when its not in use.
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Very cool idea.....
A buddy has a pit in his floor, and it is ideal for installing headers, some exhaust work, and buttoning-up motor/tranny swaps.....
His is actually about 20" narrower at the bottom than the top, but the sides are not 'tapered':
about a foot below the floor, he had 'shelves (or a 'step')', about 10" wide on each side of the pit, built right into the concrete.
He also had recessed-lighting installed into the sides of the pit, above the shelves (easy to see and find tools), and a few in the lower area (in-case something falls...), and a few electrical outlets, as-well.....
I only helped him a few times, but it made header swaps and such very easy, and the built-in shelves, for tools, nuts and bolts, and small parts, was very handy, too.....
A buddy has a pit in his floor, and it is ideal for installing headers, some exhaust work, and buttoning-up motor/tranny swaps.....
His is actually about 20" narrower at the bottom than the top, but the sides are not 'tapered':
about a foot below the floor, he had 'shelves (or a 'step')', about 10" wide on each side of the pit, built right into the concrete.
He also had recessed-lighting installed into the sides of the pit, above the shelves (easy to see and find tools), and a few in the lower area (in-case something falls...), and a few electrical outlets, as-well.....
I only helped him a few times, but it made header swaps and such very easy, and the built-in shelves, for tools, nuts and bolts, and small parts, was very handy, too.....
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My dad had put one in. They are very useful. If you plan on servicing trucks or SUV's, consider making it 5.5 ft deep or getting something to stand on. Otherwise you may find yourself on tip toes to get to the oil filter.
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I thought about it a lot rolling around on my floor putting in a suspension kit. I also thought a lot about side exhaust after fighting it all weekend. But I'f I was biulding new I would definately either put in a pit or a 12' ceiling with a high lift door and a car lift. there were nice lifts at Carlisle with $3200 selling price...Not cheap but think of the Convience!!! Only problem with the pit is:
1: It may not be as cheap as you think
2: You will still have to use jack stands for any job requiring wheel removal
3: I expect there will jobs that you just cant get at from the top or the bottom.
4: There is a safty issue especially if you have small kids.
With a $3200 lift I think I would go lift and high garage. Just my $.02. Good luck.
1: It may not be as cheap as you think
2: You will still have to use jack stands for any job requiring wheel removal
3: I expect there will jobs that you just cant get at from the top or the bottom.
4: There is a safty issue especially if you have small kids.
With a $3200 lift I think I would go lift and high garage. Just my $.02. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by 75rag4sp
There is a safty issue especially if you have small kids.
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Lift is far safer than a pit (with kids around) and the cost for both would not be to far apart. Depend on you lot ,soil,drainage ect..., a pit could have some problems if not done right, and will probably require a special permit depending on your area, this might not be a good thing to throw at your contractor at this late date.
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Originally Posted by Glensgages
Very cool idea.....
A buddy has a pit in his floor, and it is ideal for installing headers, some exhaust work, and buttoning-up motor/tranny swaps.....
His is actually about 20" narrower at the bottom than the top, but the sides are not 'tapered':
about a foot below the floor, he had 'shelves (or a 'step')', about 10" wide on each side of the pit, built right into the concrete.
He also had recessed-lighting installed into the sides of the pit, above the shelves (easy to see and find tools), and a few in the lower area (in-case something falls...), and a few electrical outlets, as-well.....
I only helped him a few times, but it made header swaps and such very easy, and the built-in shelves, for tools, nuts and bolts, and small parts, was very handy, too.....
A buddy has a pit in his floor, and it is ideal for installing headers, some exhaust work, and buttoning-up motor/tranny swaps.....
His is actually about 20" narrower at the bottom than the top, but the sides are not 'tapered':
about a foot below the floor, he had 'shelves (or a 'step')', about 10" wide on each side of the pit, built right into the concrete.
He also had recessed-lighting installed into the sides of the pit, above the shelves (easy to see and find tools), and a few in the lower area (in-case something falls...), and a few electrical outlets, as-well.....
I only helped him a few times, but it made header swaps and such very easy, and the built-in shelves, for tools, nuts and bolts, and small parts, was very handy, too.....
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Originally Posted by checklst
Lift is far safer than a pit (with kids around) and the cost for both would not be to far apart. Depend on you lot ,soil,drainage ect..., a pit could have some problems if not done right, and will probably require a special permit depending on your area, this might not be a good thing to throw at your contractor at this late date.
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Originally Posted by kermit1654
That sounds very cool! I planned to have some grates welded up to cover it when not in use. I live in small town well away from major cities. Codes may not be a problem but I'll check with the building inspector.
he had steps 'poured' into the concrete at each end of his pit, to make it easy to enter/exit his pit, too.
I'm guessing it was 'just' 16'-18', from end-to-end, at garage-floor level, and maybe 10'-12' long at the base/floor of the pit.
We never bothered building grating or covering his pit;
his race-car 'sat' above it, and when we took it out racing, we'd put another car over it, to cover the pit...
If we needed the pit for another car, we'd simply push (tube-chassis '55 T-Bird) his race car out of the way for whatever we were tinkering-on...
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Originally Posted by 75Rag
AND ......... if you ever move it's easier taking a lift with you ...
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The pit will be a massive financial negative if you ever want to re-sell your house; you would probably have to fill it in before trying to sell. They do not meet residential building codes in any state, and EPA permits are required for businesses installing them.
Skip the pit and install a lift. Since you're pouring concrete, you can have a thicker-than-normal pad poured at the lift post locations, and you can cast-in the mounting studs for a super-sturdy and safe installation. A lift gives you much more flexibility (especially a 2-post), and you can store a car under the one on the lift for increased storage capacity. A pit will be a thorn in your side.
Skip the pit and install a lift. Since you're pouring concrete, you can have a thicker-than-normal pad poured at the lift post locations, and you can cast-in the mounting studs for a super-sturdy and safe installation. A lift gives you much more flexibility (especially a 2-post), and you can store a car under the one on the lift for increased storage capacity. A pit will be a thorn in your side.
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Depending on your lot, drainage may be an issue. If it has to be 5ft of concrete, on two sides and 3 on the others and the slab, you are talking about adding a good bit of concrete and rebar if you do it right. Concrete is pretty high right now.
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If you are building the garage, specify a minimum of 12-1/2' of head room and put in a "clear floor" lift. This would also give you an additional parking space if you wanted/needed it. These can be had (installed) for about $3K. My truck lift (AutoLifter Asymetrical 9,000#/27,000# capacity) cost me $3K and $300 to deliver and install and they've come down in price since then.
OTOH, if you do a pit, you could also use it as a lap pool if you put a Jacuzzi jet at one end.
OTOH, if you do a pit, you could also use it as a lap pool if you put a Jacuzzi jet at one end.